Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:05:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Hamell <hamellr@aracnet.com> To: worldly BSD <worldlybsd@yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no questions? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006271030280.31633-100000@shell1.aracnet.com> In-Reply-To: <20000627172045.4138.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com>
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> Being that I am the person whom you are bashing, I > would like to point out a couple of things. I am not bashing anyone. I am trying to preserve this group to it's orginal purpose. > First, I have read, read and read. Such things as, Man > pages, Greg's FreeBSD book and the Online Handbook. I > do not recall reading where <bash> is the default > shell ! Second, I am a system administrator <SGI & I've actually already admitted that I could be wrong on the shell. For I still consider myself a newbie despite using FreeBSD since 2.2.6 and Linux since Kernal .93 My point orginal point is still that -Newbies is NOT the place for questions to be asked, or answered. On the other hand, BTW, you did not mention reading the -questions archives, or reading -questions at all. LOTS of things are still undocumented in FreeBSD and have only been covered in one of the mailing lists. > not as many reading resources as other OS, I would > think that the FreeBSD community would welcome new > users their questions, no matter where they get > posted. In all things there is a proper time and place. Again, -Newbies is NOT the place to ask questions. I noticed that the orginal poster then posted his question in -questions AND got it answered less then five minutes after I sent my orginal Email out. In my mind, I've helped another newbie get to the right place to ask their questions AND get them answered by those far more experienced then myself. > If the FreeBSD community wants to gain more users then > this type of elitist attitude may have to get shelved. > Yes, I understand that most people with an elitist > attitude never see that they have one. Actually, I believe that you're suffering from a mis-perception now. FreeBSD has ALWAYS been about making an OS that runs stable and is powerful. Until recently, the 'FreeBSD Community' could have cared less about new users! This has only changed within the last two years or so when we've hit a critical mass of new users, who are falling into the old 'My OS is better then your OS so you must use mine' mindset. If that is an Elitist attitude, then so be it... these people are making FreeBSD to what they want it to be, to serve THIER purposes and NOBODY elses. BTW, this argument has been hashed to death on -chat. Now, I also agree with you! There needs to be two types of people in the FreeBSD Community. The Developers, Core Team members, coders, etc. Who make FreeBSD into what it is. Then there needs to be the religious zealots, people who push FreeBSD as 'THE' operating system. Without both types, FreeBSD as a World-Class operating system will fail. Just as long as everyone ralizes that there are some people who don't care, just as long as it does what they want it too! Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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