Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 10:35:47 -0700 From: paul beard <paulbeard@gmail.com> To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" <steve@sohara.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, doug@safeport.com Subject: Re: pkg upgrade vs building from source Message-ID: <CAMtcK2pwCJDEHv0-gYPu0wfrnVkVHVA6CVgk1O0PqkZfzp2=8g@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20221009171101.fd47f5b4d61a5c73294e744c@sohara.org> References: <CAMtcK2rPSxd0DignXvzw%2BnNc1U1iYpBjGpN%2BtqA4zevUO4qkQA@mail.gmail.com> <e4544587-50bb-55e8-3284-58a76b3a69f7@freebsd.org> <CAMtcK2rp2JLHpWJbQHv1DQBB8MS3=ro9hbJF0orUEK3rqJ5xLw@mail.gmail.com> <3da3d329-a19d-51cd-0f78-ef77dbf66bfe@holgerdanske.com> <CAMtcK2qLsodE2QSE7uLZkoRRo7ogHNmfHGJAHTR9g2ZP8HgpfQ@mail.gmail.com> <99bb01a2-e099-4a52-808d-b1e4ec28385f@app.fastmail.com> <CAMtcK2qfE=HLtYCMxF=0XW1bateO9Hv7N4bW%2BjQ34gBh4sAF_Q@mail.gmail.com> <20221009072514.8f0fa115a2fd21c4d071fc43@sohara.org> <25e14271-3e90-70b-8f88-d75d803b76de@safeport.com> <20221009171101.fd47f5b4d61a5c73294e744c@sohara.org>
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--000000000000d0c6cc05ea9d7976 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:11 AM Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> wrote: > On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 16:06:36 +0000 (UTC) > doug <doug@safeport.com> wrote: > > > First I want to say pkg is vastly superior to the system it replaced. > > Seconded, loudly and enthusiastically. > > -- > Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> > > This is what I hope for as well. Building from source is pretty slow on a VM running as a guest on 13 (!) year old hardware. I just get itchy when I see pkg doing things i don't understand (deleting ports it thinks are abandoned but that I use, downgrading ports while upgrading/reinstalling others). Granted this was on an older 11.x system that was a mish mash of ports and pkgs so I may have created my own private hell. Hoping to get out of that. I don't use a lot of more sophisticated features (no jails, no zfs, no poudiere, etc) and ideally, this system doesn't require a lot of interaction. I briefly considered running all this stuff (mariadb, wordpress, php, et al) in native macos on the host system but it was simpler to go back to freebsd as a guest. I had a working, if damaged, set of configuration files to work from so that worked out, Thanks to all for the help and clarification. I'll see if I can commit to pkg and let it do its work. -- Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/ --000000000000d0c6cc05ea9d7976 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 9:11 AM Steve = O'Hara-Smith <<a href=3D"mailto:steve@sohara.org">steve@sohara.org</= a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p= x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-c= olor:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 16:06:36 +0000 (= UTC)<br> doug <<a href=3D"mailto:doug@safeport.com" target=3D"_blank">doug@safepo= rt.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > First I want to say pkg is vastly superior to the system it replaced.<= br> <br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Seconded, loudly and enthusiastically.<br> <br> -- <br> Steve O'Hara-Smith <<a href=3D"mailto:steve@sohara.org" target=3D"_b= lank">steve@sohara.org</a>><br> <br> </blockquote></div><div><br></div>This is what I hope for as well. Building= =C2=A0from source is pretty slow on a VM running as a guest on 13 (!) year = old hardware. I just get itchy when I see pkg doing things i don't unde= rstand (deleting ports=C2=A0it thinks are abandoned but that I use, downgra= ding ports while upgrading/reinstalling others). Granted this=C2=A0was on a= n older 11.x system=C2=A0that was a mish mash of ports and pkgs=C2=A0so I m= ay have created my own private hell. Hoping to get out of that. I don't= use a lot of more sophisticated features=C2=A0(no jails, no zfs, no poudie= re, etc) and ideally, this system doesn't require a lot of interaction.= I briefly considered running all this stuff (mariadb, wordpress, php, et a= l) in native macos on the host system but it was simpler to go back to free= bsd as a guest. I had a working, if damaged, set of configuration files to = work from so that worked out,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Thanks to all for th= e help and clarification. I'll see if I can commit to pkg and let it do= its work.=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" cl= ass=3D"gmail_signature">Paul Beard / <a href=3D"http://www.paulbeard.org/" = target=3D"_blank">www.paulbeard.org/</a><br></div></div></div> --000000000000d0c6cc05ea9d7976--
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