Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:12:50 +0200 From: "Ronald Klop" <ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org> To: freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, "Tim Daneliuk" <tundra@tundraware.com> Subject: Re: Bind in FreeBSD, security advisories Message-ID: <op.w01gfo1u8527sy@ronaldradial.versatec.local> In-Reply-To: <51F7C544.4050607@tundraware.com> References: <CAO%2BPfDctepQY0mGH7H%2BgOSm4HJwhe-RCND%2BmxAArnRxpWiCsjg@mail.gmail.com> <1375186900.23467.3223791.24CB348A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <51F7B5C7.6050008@digsys.bg> <CAOgwaMt4G02yhU0cbiq_EEwhi4=mgt2kLGJf0Rgb8t9wECsGJA@mail.gmail.com> <51F7C544.4050607@tundraware.com>
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On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:53:08 +0200, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> wrote: > On 07/30/2013 08:13 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 30.07.13 15:21, Mark Felder wrote: >>> >>>> People don't seem upset about not having a webserver, IMAP/POP daemon, >>>> or LDAP server in base, so I don't understand what the big deal is >>>> about >>>> removing BIND. >>>> >>> >>> I believe the primary reason these things are not in the base system is >>> that they have plenty of dependencies, with possibly conflicting >>> licenses >>> etc. >>> >>> If the concern is over the rare case when you absolutely >>>> need a DNS recursor and there are none you can reach I suppose we >>>> should >>>> just import Unbound. >>>> >>> >>> There are many and good reasons to include an fully featured name >>> server, >>> or at least full recursive resolver. For example, for properly >>> supporting >>> DNSSEC. >>> We could in theory remove the BIND's authoritative name server >>> executable... if that is attracting the SAs. >>> >>> The justification "reduce the number of SA's", that is, "the bad PR" is >>> probably not enough. Going that direction, we should consider Comrade >>> Stalin's maxim "FreeBSD exists, there are problems, here is the >>> solution -- >>> no FreeBSD, no problems!" :-) >>> >>> Daniel >>> >> >> >> >> Then , there exists a new problem : >> >> >> "There is no FreeBSD ..." >> >> >> Thank you very much . >> >> > > Exactly. Either strip everything out of the base > including things like perl or admit that there is more > to a modern OS than just kernel and admin tools. > > > You have perl in base? http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/02/05/14/0015234/freebsd-perl-to-be-removed ;-) Ronald.
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