Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:24:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> To: Matthew Fuller <fullermd@linkfast.net> Cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/tcsh - Imported sources Message-ID: <200004170024.RAA12729@realtime.exit.com> In-Reply-To: <20000416185507.B43688@linkfast.net> from Matthew Fuller at "Apr 16, 2000 06:55:07 pm"
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Matthew Fuller wrote: > I think the point is a far bigger portions of users are surprised by how > unfriendly and useless the root shell is. 'What, I don't have tab > completion?' 'What, I don't have <up> <down> command history and > editing?' etc. > > These are, for instance, Linux users, used to bash, or tcsh, or something > similar. They quit in disgust and go back to Linux because a simple > thing like working as root is useless because we have no decent shells. > > (Note that this isn't my opinion necessarily, I always use /bin/sh for > root for various reasons, but first impressions on converts really count) Time for me to chime in. The _first_ thing I _invariably_ do is replace the root shell with a statically-compiled /bin/tcsh. Every time. So count me in as extremely happy that tcsh is now part of the base. (And please make sure that if it's in /bin/tcsh, that it's statically compiled. There's nothing at all like getting a 'libc.so.4 not found' when one is trying to fix a broken system.) -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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