Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 10:42:24 +1300 From: Peter Toth <peter.toth198@gmail.com> To: Dirk Engling <erdgeist@erdgeist.org>, Michael Lucas <mwlucas@michaelwlucas.com> Cc: jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: preferred jail management tool Message-ID: <CAEUAJxshDTchbgEjPXEcdy0cyhgwWxaR-0z0VXWAA1hxX2ByRA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54C80145.3070201@erdgeist.org> References: <CACfj5vKjiQHsy9VbOKFFcrBpyr3dmbkOOxTxCYhSyZrnrjRiaQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAHieY7TyxzC0aK-ErY2EbCmTJPykk_9G7Gd=CrZ9yxQ-77PynA@mail.gmail.com> <20150127012347.GA4940@lonesome.com> <20150127141239.V77290@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <54C7958B.40007@gmail.com> <54C7C828.4070703@erdgeist.org> <14943.128.135.70.2.1422381245.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <54C7D371.9010609@erdgeist.org> <13934.128.135.70.2.1422383293.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <CAEUAJxtctW_Ku4iQFWTKOsr=sABDtKEeKKVitFyFcxfUSp%2Bjig@mail.gmail.com> <54C7F109.2040405@erdgeist.org> <CAEUAJxtQjUJEh%2Bz324utrY09FHTWVOwi0oegSv65%2B=-o48p66g@mail.gmail.com> <54C7FF2D.2070802@quip.cz> <54C80145.3070201@erdgeist.org>
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I think Michael didn't really know that he opened Pandora's box by starting this thread! These discussions are long overdue - especially nowadays, when containers are hyped all over the world. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Dirk Engling <erdgeist@erdgeist.org> wrote: > On 27.01.15 22:12, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > > > Yes. Sometimes I have a feeling that jails or some other features are > > unwanted children. I had PR opened for years with patche to rc.d/jail or > > etc/rc.subr to incorporate nice, or cpuset. And it never found it's way > > to the tree. > > How's that possible? > > I felt similarly frustrated when I went to 2013's BSDCan trying to talk > to the "jaily people" and noone was around. Jamie couldn't attend but > said that he's busy with other stuff and couldn't commit time to jail > development. Which, of course, is fine. It leaves a void, though. > > What good are features that are neither documented nor exposed to the > users? How do we move on from here and get config and docs synchronized > and where can I get a big picture of what's the big plan for the future? > > erdgeist >
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