Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 14:39:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Pathiakis <pathiaki2@yahoo.com> To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Best hardware for a replacement desktop? Message-ID: <278130479.3470532.1564497541159@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <23872.11833.472713.928307@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <23872.11833.472713.928307@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
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Ok... I have an opinion on this as well.....
The TR is a specific socket and not AM4 like the the rest of the Ryzen seri=
es.
I have the AM4 boards, all from ASUS ( I guess I'm one of the few people th=
at have never had a problem with an ASUS board in over 25 years...).=C2=A0 =
I have B350 and X470s....
The nice thing about AM4.... I can pretty much plug-n-play with all these b=
oards with my Ryzen 1600, 2600x and 2700x chips....=C2=A0 I had considered =
the TR but I have noticed that the high-end 3000 series are outperforming t=
he TR 2000 series.... I'm now looking to get an X570 and, probably, 3600x m=
aybe even lower with the 3600.=C2=A0 Honestly, I don't need any more comput=
ing power.
(I'm not saying that the TRs socket isn't, it's just I like having the opti=
on of so many chips on AM4 and I see it as more of mainstream vs niche.)
It comes down to having it a year before it's obsolete.=C2=A0 I expect AMD,=
with their "fantasy roadmap" (which I can't believe they are making a real=
ity and executing so perfectly on), will have AM4 chips of the 4000 series =
at the high end next year that will, probably, beat the TR of this year....
Then there's cost:
Typically, TRs cost about $1000 when they first come out.... the x700 and x=
800... about half that.=C2=A0 Power consumption is 2-2.5x more than the AM4=
set.... so TCO is much higher.=C2=A0 (Also, there is the 3900 and the yet =
to release 3950 <--- !!!! )
Personally, if I was flush with disposable cash... I really want a TR but I=
can't justify it. :D
I'd suggest looking at the various benchmarking sites on line for specmarks=
and the like and weighing all the costs, initial versus ongoing (electric =
bill.)
I've had the first 2 generations of Ryzen and I am blown away by their the =
speed and low TDP.
I also wait until Black Friday sales to grab a new MB, CPU, and Memory.... =
Since my PSUs can handle 550-650W, I can easily upgrade as the new chips ar=
e even lower on TDP.
Above is just a lot of stuff to consider.... right or wrong... it depends o=
n your needs.
P.
On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 10:14:48 AM EDT, Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn=
.com> wrote: =20
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 As long as we're talking hardware ....
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I am speculating about replacing roughly ten year old
machines with something based on AMD's Threadripper series.=C2=A0=20
I know these have only come out fairly recently; is anyone=20
using them and willing to share their experience?
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Respectfully,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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Subject: Re: Assign an IP address to a bridge fail
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On 7/21/19 1:17 PM, Pierre Dupond wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am facing a strange problem. Just after installing a fresh
>
> Freebsd 12 on an Pc Engines APU machine, I build a bridge with the 4
>
> network cards.
>
>
> If I try to setup the address of the bridge in the "/etc/rc.conf" file,
> I can not ping (outside the address
>
> given to the bridge). But if I comment the line for setting the address
> in the file
>
> "/etc/rc.conf" and I set the address manually with the command
>
> "ifconfig bridge0 inet 172.16.0.11 netmask 255.255.254.0" the ping works.
>
> Do I have made an obvious mistake in the "rc.conf" file? What could be
> the reason of this problem?
>
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
<snip>
> ifconfig_bridge0="addm igb0 addm igb1 addm igb2 addm igb3 up"
<snip>
> ifconfig_bridge0="inet 172.16.0.11 netmask 255.255.254.0"
/etc/rc.conf is parsed as a shellscript, so later definitions of
variables (such as ifconfig_bridge0) overwrite earlier definitions.
Either combine the two ifconfig_bridge0 definitions into a single
stanza, or change the first from ifconfig_bridge0= to
create_args_bridge0= . The network setup rcscript provides create_args_*
to set parameters that can only be set during interface creation (like
name), but it also happens to work well for setting physical parameters
of synthetic interfaces, such as the devices slaved to a bridge.
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