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Date:      Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:20:03 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Hiten Pandya <hiten@angelica.unixdaemons.com>
To:        freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: docs/41104: Stale comment removal from pccardd(8)
Message-ID:  <200207291620.g6TGK3gD091927@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR docs/41104; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Hiten Pandya <hiten@angelica.unixdaemons.com>
To: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc: jhb@FreeBSD.org, hiten@angelica.unixdaemons.com,
	hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/41104: Stale comment removal from pccardd(8)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:11:22 -0400

 On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 09:03:26AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote the words in effect of:
 > In message: <XFMail.20020729081434.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
 >             John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> writes:
 > : Unfortunately using KLD's does not fix this problem and it is still an
 > : issue.  I can't eject my cardbus rl0 card w/o my laptop locking up for
 > : exactly this reason.  This patch should not be committed unless Warner
 > : (imp@, cc'd) approves.
 > 
 > Yes, the comments in the pccardd man page are correct (eg, that's why
 > things are they way they are).  However, once the underlying problems
 > in the kernel were fixed, pccardd wasn't updated to be less smart
 > about the resources a card uses.  Likely it should read:
 > 
 > 	The primary reasons are historical.
 
 Ok.  When I submitted the PR, and after a while, Greg Lehey, first asked
 me, "I removed the explanation, but not the claim".  Although, we now
 already have the so-called "loadable kernel modules", so I think, we
 would need to move the paragraph down, to an "ISSUES" section, and there
 it can be marked as "historical".  Is that permitted?
 
 > What happens in NEWCARD with a rl card aren't relevant to this
 > discussion :-) The reason that you can't eject the rl0 card has to do
 > with something else (likely an ISR that doesn't properly terminate
 > when the card is gone or a detach routine that's minorly bogus).
 
 Does this issue happen with all NEWCARD (network) devices?
 
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