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Date:      Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:56:28 -0600 (CST)
From:      Phoenix <phoenix@notwise.bsdonline.org>
To:        John Reynolds~ <jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG, qa@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Installation floppies and USB
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.10.10002282152020.21476-100000@notwise.notwise.net>
In-Reply-To: <14522.39273.53653.511902@hip186.ch.intel.com>

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If it is the same kind of acer as I have you may be in luck,
hidden away on the back panel hidden behind a sticker and a
metal knockout there are 2 ps/2 style connectors. Pull the
top off of your box and see if you have them (near the parrellel
port) I have been running -current on this box for a month
with no problems other than having to use a normal keyboard for
the install.

also Nick Himba

>Seeing that your USB controller fails to work properly when the FreeBSD
>kernel takes over, I bet somewhere there is a problem with shared
>interrupts.

>Because a USB keyboard here works either with USB support or without USB
>support compiled in.

I had the same problem on my box, Ie. the usb controler wont do
emulation at boot under freebsd, strangly the same box ran linux
for 6 months witout the usb stack loaded and the keyboard worked
fine, it just broke when I loaded the stack. works fine now as
long as my freebsd kernel has usb enabled.

Bob



On Feb 28, The Matrix made John Reynolds~ say,

>
>[forwarded from -questions to the above groups because this seems to be a
>legit "problem" and I wanted the "right eyes" in -current to see it. ]
>
>------- start of forwarded message -------
>From: "John Daniels" <jmd526@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Installation floppies and USB
>Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:19:50 EST
>
>I have a system with only a *USB* keyboard port (no PS/2 or AT-style ports). 
>  When I boot the installation floppies I get the message:
>  keyboard:no
>After reading errata,release notes, etc., I learned that I should hit
>'enter' and type '-Dh' at the prompt, which I did.  Now the installation 
>proceeds until the kernel is booted and the kernel configuration menu is 
>displayed (with 3 options: skip config, full-screen, CLI-mode).  At that 
>point my keyboard becomes unusable.  I believe that this may be because the 
>kernel ('GENERIC'?) doesn't include USB support.  USB support is supposed to 
>be compiled in *after* an install.
>
>For my system, this is unacceptable.  I now have a catch-22: I can't get USB 
>support until the kernel is recompiled, and I can't recompile the kernel 
>unless I can use the keyboard to install FreeBSD.
>
>My system was created by a major PC Manufacturer (Acer) and I'm sure that 
>they have sold thousands like it.  I'm sure that they are not/will not be 
>the only manufacturer to create USB-only systems.  My system uses Human 
>Interface Devices (HID) USB.  It is *CRUCIAL* that USB keyboards be 
>recognized "out-of-the-box" for current and future systems that only support
>USB keyboards.
>
>QUESTION: Are there work currently andy arounds/solutions in FreeBSD?  When 
>can USB be available "out-of-the-box?" (I was hoping it would be in 4.0) 
>Lastly, the NetBSD install floppy recognizes my keyboard and lets me use it 
>during the install.  Is there any possible workaround that includes booting 
>the NetBSD install disk, or installing FreeBSD over/after NetBSD?
>
>NOTE: There has already been at least one other FreeBSD newbie who has 
>encountered this problem (also with an Acer box), and there seems to be a 
>fair amount of USB questions/discussion online.
>
>Any info/help is greatly appreciated
>
>John
>jmd526@hotmail.com
>
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