Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 16:22:26 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> To: Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.freebsd.org>, Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/sysinstall install.c label.c sysinstall.h Message-ID: <200112100022.fBA0MQf41428@apollo.backplane.com> References: <38978.1007929894@winston.freebsd.org> <200112092052.fB9Kq0Z38961@apollo.backplane.com> <20011210102459.G83634@monorchid.lemis.com>
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:This is adding Yet Another file system. I've already said I object to
:this: People who use Auto don't understand sizing. How can Auto
:decide for them?
You appear to be asking us to remove 'A'uto entirely, because what
'A'uto did before my patches is even *worse*. We have a fairly
good idea what the middle-of-the-road requirements are. We know /usr
needs to be between 2 and 3GB, if possible. We know /var was too small,
that /tmp was too small, and that / was a bit too small. We know what
sorts of problems laypeople commonly have when installing a system
(reference to those USENET questions, for example). We may not be
able to completely solve these issues but we can get fairly close and
*THAT* my dear sir is what the goal of 'A'uto is.
:We've had a discussion showing that you represent a minority view, and
:in fact that there are many minority views. In particular, there has
:been very little support for /var/tmp. I agree with jkh: to claim
:that this handles just about everyone's needs is bogus. Please back
:this out.
It handles a far larger cross section then the other code did. It is,
after all, a superset. Four keystrokes gets you the original code
(though with auto sizing). Again, these changes aren't being made
for your benefit, they are being made for the layperson's benefit
and for ours --- to reduce lay-user questions and lay-user problems.
And if the power developer doesn't like them the power developer can
'D'elete them trivially. I'm not tromping on your or JKH's toes even
if you guys think I am.
:What we should discuss is whether we can come up with a small number
:of alternatives which will handle just about everyone's needs.
:Suggestions? I note that nobody slammed my suggestion, which went
:strongly in the opposite direction.
:
:Greg
You are welcome to submit your ideas, complete with code. But I am
certainly not going to code up your ideas. I really doubt there is
any 'small number of alternatives' that handles everyone's needs, and
I am not particularly interested in adding new complex features to
sysinstall that will only further confuse half the people that use it.
At that point the power developer might as well simply manually
construct the partition set he wants.
-Matt
Matthew Dillon
<dillon@backplane.com>
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