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Date:      Fri, 18 Nov 2022 12:30:56 +0000
From:      rb@gid.co.uk
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        freebsd-arch <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Dropping firewire support from boot loader
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Hi,

It doesn=E2=80=99t seem to work. Building with LOADER_FIREWIRE_SUPPORT =
doesn=E2=80=99t actually get libfirewire.a built but adding the subdir =
to the list fixes that.

The resulting loader booted from a USB stick goes BTX Halted straight =
away.

> On 12 Nov 2022, at 20:49, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 1:25 PM Bob Bishop <rb@gid.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> Well, the kernel support =E2=80=98just works=E2=80=99 so installing on =
to a firewire disk is straightforward; just load up firewire.ko and =
sbp.ko, and the disk comes up through CAM.
>=20
> However, I couldn=E2=80=99t get the loader to see the disk; I don=E2=80=99=
t think this build of the loader includes the firewire bits. Not helped =
on my hardware because the BIOS doesn=E2=80=99t have firewire disk boot =
support.
>=20
> Firmware isn't built by default. You need a special build for that... =
what is loading /boot/loader? Not sure you could boot the system with it =
if the bios doesn't support it (except by having a tiny disk that the =
BIOS understands and using that to boot off the fireworks root).
>=20
> Warner=20
>=20
> Warner=20
>=20
> > On 10 Nov 2022, at 21:53, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> >=20
> > I've created a diff: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37334
> >=20
> > Warner
> >=20
> > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 3:07 AM Bob Bishop <rb@gid.co.uk> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >=20
> > > On 9 Nov 2022, at 23:55, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:42 PM Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> =
wrote:
> > > Warner Losh <imp_at_bsdimp.com> wrote on
> > > Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 20:01:41 UTC :
> > >=20
> > > > I'd like to drop firewire support from the boot loader. It's not =
been used
> > > > in quite some time, as far as I can tell. Nor have I (or anybody =
else)
> > > > tested it in forever.
> > > >=20
> > > > Is anybody still using it? Does anybody know if it works? Any =
objections to
> > > > removing it from FreeBSD 14?
> >=20
> > I think I still have hardware that will do this. I can check it out =
if anyone cares...=20
> >=20
> > > I would suggest that old PowerMac's might be the most
> > > likely usage context.
> > >=20
> > > Right now, though, this is an i386 only feature...
> > >=20
> > > Warner
> >=20
> > --
> > Bob Bishop
> > rb@gid.co.uk
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
>=20
> --
> Bob Bishop
> rb@gid.co.uk
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20


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