Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 10:40:53 -0500 From: William Dudley <wfdudley@gmail.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail on 14-RELEASE Message-ID: <CAFsnNZ%2Bntx9ho2GXrgnX8QSxUPDLbH%2BZ=sguLezPqje3jZyGVA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <ZXhEpWaQWkJTItSC@int21h> References: <CAGBxaX=tEKN_5LmGg_ONS9Ok_1_At_6ZcbtZbkCnPVp%2BpwPGCA@mail.gmail.com> <ZXhEpWaQWkJTItSC@int21h>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] I realize that I'm asking the wrong people this question, but what is the point of "replacing" sendmail with dma? >From this: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=a67b925ff3e5, which is referenced from the release notes for 14 "dma accepts mail from a local Mail User Agent (MUA) and delivers it locally or to a smarthost for delivery. dma does not accept inbound mail (i.e., it does not listen on port 25) and is not intended to provide the same functionality as a full MTA like postfix or sendmail." So, why? It's not a replacement for sendmail in any sense at all, as it can't actually receive mail from outside the machine. If one runs a FreeBSD mail server, one still has to keep sendmail or postfix or some *real* MTA running, and now there's an extra step, to disable "dma". What's the point? Bill Dudley New Jersey, USA This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 6:32 AM void <void@f-m.fm> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 01:03:44AM -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > >I have installed 14.0-RELEASE and for the life of me (even following > >the hand book and examples from several 13.X machines around here) can > >not get the following issues resolved: > > > >1. Sendmail does not start when enabled (it dies instantly) > >2. When running in interactive mode the following alias is not found > >despite the path existing with mailnull/mail ownership and newaliases > >being run > > Sendmail is not the default mailer in 14.0-R, see > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.0R/relnotes/ > and grep for 'sendmail' > -- > > [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="ltr">I realize that I'm asking the wrong people this question, but what is the<div>point of "replacing" sendmail with dma?</div><div><br></div><div>From this: <a href="https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=a67b925ff3e5">https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=a67b925ff3e5</a>, which is</div><div>referenced from the release notes for 14</div><div><br></div><div>"<font face="monospace">dma accepts mail from a local Mail User Agent (MUA) and delivers it</font></div><font face="monospace">locally or to a smarthost for delivery. dma does not accept inbound<br>mail (i.e., it does not listen on port 25) and is not intended to<br>provide the same functionality as a full MTA like postfix or sendmail.</font>"<div><br></div><div>So, why? It's not a replacement for sendmail in any sense at</div><div>all, as it can't actually receive mail from outside the machine.</div><div><br></div><div>If one runs a FreeBSD mail server, one still has to keep sendmail or postfix</div><div>or some <b>real</b> MTA running, and now there's an extra step, to disable</div><div>"dma".</div><div><br></div><div>What's the point?</div><div><br></div><div>Bill Dudley</div><div>New Jersey, USA</div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">This email is free of malware because I run Linux.</div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 6:32 AM void <<a href="mailto:void@f-m.fm">void@f-m.fm</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 01:03:44AM -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote:<br> >I have installed 14.0-RELEASE and for the life of me (even following<br> >the hand book and examples from several 13.X machines around here) can<br> >not get the following issues resolved:<br> ><br> >1. Sendmail does not start when enabled (it dies instantly)<br> >2. When running in interactive mode the following alias is not found<br> >despite the path existing with mailnull/mail ownership and newaliases<br> >being run<br> <br> Sendmail is not the default mailer in 14.0-R, see <a href="https://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.0R/relnotes/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.0R/relnotes/</a><br>; and grep for 'sendmail'<br> -- <br> <br> </blockquote></div>help
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