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Date:      Mon, 10 Apr 95 19:31:12 EDT
From:      jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek)
To:        jkh@freefall.cdrom.com
Cc:        freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com
Subject:   Re: ASUS www mirror
Message-ID:  <9504102331.AA03441@borg.ess.harris.com>

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> From owner-freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Mon Apr 10 18:42:28 1995
> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol
> To: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek)
> Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com
> Subject: Re: ASUS www mirror 
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:37:06 -0700
> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@freefall.cdrom.com>
> Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org
> 
> > The ANC site was quite a hassle because they wanted to use
> > ISDN so I had my first introduction to the motorola
> > TA210. Hmmmm, not heartily recommended at this time but I hear
> > they have a firmware upgrade available that may make things better,
> > although that connection setup time sure was nice, dial->connected
> > no fuss, no long handshake...
> 
> Are you saying you have a FreeBSD box up and using ISDN commercially?
> 
> Details - Dammit, Jim - I'm an engineer, not a clarvoyant! :-)
> 
> 					Jordan
> 

Ok Details..didn't think there would be to much interest.

I have loaded up a couple of this companies machines
DX2, and 75Mhz pentium, NCR scsi, adaptec 1542, mach video,etc..
To introduce them to freebsd, after getting them up and running with
a simple Web setup, ( I left it at port 8080 after my testing and 
it looks like it was never changed, oh well I guess I will have to
fix it, why is it free support is purpetual :-) ) they wanted 
more bandwidth and wanted to try ISDN.
lets just say getting the ISDN line to the building from the phone
company was a comedy of errors in itself. But after sothern bell
struggled for a week, (taking out the phone service of the block for
a while we suspect :-) ) we had an ISDN line. Then the adventure began
with the provider, lots of mistakes about ISDN switch types and numbers
and very little documentation with the motorola TA210. we have yet 
to configure the ports to a baudrate > 57600 as a powerup default :-(
it seems all saved, we use every save option we could find and loaded every
profile with the same info, cut the power and its back to 57600, ignore DTR.

I think some of this may be fixed in a firmware update that also 
would support bonding the 2 B channels together.

as far as freebsd goes it looks just like a modem on com port 1.
the connect times are very nice just a second and your there :-)

The costs are pretty hefty...
southern bell $95/month plus setup
provider $300/month for dedicated + setup
I think its 500 with a bonded ISDN link(128kbits)

The providers infrastructure appears to be a linux box as a router
which I think was causing problem with routing between 2 freebsd boxes.
They are linux fanatics so I don't bother to try and change
their minds, not worth the trouble.

There may also be problems with the "health club" approach
many providers have, I never realized how many 28Kbit, 64kbit,
and 128kbit dedicated lines can fit over 1 128kbit fractional T1
must be that new math ;-)  So think before you leap.

Anyway, I guess the answer is yes I've got a freebsd box that is
on an ISDN(not really mine but I maintain it in reality, you know
that great free support/maintainance agreement we all seem to like...)

I personally am going to wait a while before I sign up but thats
on the lowly budget of a SW research engineer. (panelist 17th National
computer security conference, anyone care to PAY me for my time, HA HA
HA HA, pay HA HA HA, oops sorry to much mountain dew, where did I
put those pop tarts? :-) )

( I think the GSMA robot may be more interesting :-) )

Jim







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