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Date:      Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:45:55 -0800 (PST)
From:      patl@phoenix.volant.org
To:        cjclark@home.com
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>, jack@germanium.xtalwind.net, rivers@dignus.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   SPAM via vmailer-announce | Was: Re: [jdp@polstra.com: CVSup 16.0 Is Now Available]
Message-ID:  <ML-3.3.918675955.4086.patl@asimov>
In-Reply-To: <199902101628.LAA15968@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>

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> Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote,
> > jack <jack@germanium.xtalwind.net> writes:
> > > On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
> > > >  You should be able to get off a FreeBSD mailing list by
> > > > sending e-mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org.  Put "unsubscribe <listname"
> > > > (no quotes) in the body of the message.
> > > That, unfortunately, doesn't work for that vmailer-announce 
> > > list.
> > > Majordomo claims not to know about it.  :(
> > 
> > vmailer-announce isn't a list, it's the distribution alias for the
> > freebsd-announce list. This goes to show Majordomo is pretty useless
> > for closed lists since it's trivial to circumvent its blocks.
> 
> This still begs the question why he is getting mail if he has removed
> himself from the 'announce' list, even if spammers have figured out
> this gaping hole in majordomo. My understanding is that going to
> 'vmailer-announce' circumvents filters on freebsd-announce, but
> shouldn't the distribution of mail, from either, be the same?

The vmailer-announce address isn't really a gaping hole in majordomo
itself; it is a hole in the majordomo/MTA interface.  It may be a hole
in vmailer; or it might be a hole in the specific configuration used
for these lists.

I had no difficulty closing that hole when using majordomo with
Exim - I simply added the options to only recognize the majordomo
output addresses when the connection was local and the uid/gid of
the connecting process matched those I use for majordomo.  (I should
note that the majordomo addresses are not listed in a standard
aliases file.  Instead, I have a separate director that matches on
the constant part of those addresses and then constructs the name
of the aliasfile from the rest.)



-Pat

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