Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 07:22:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Ross Lippert <ripper@eskimo.com> To: bts@babbleon.org Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: an editor in /bin Message-ID: <200205081422.HAA04418@eskimo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020508134414.C93A5BB29@i8k.babbleon.org> (bts@babbleon.org)
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OK, perhaps I was uniquely screwed in this situation, but I had something
wrong in my fstab and it wouldn't mount usr, which is why I needed to
boot single-user and edit fstab to repair it.
-r
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From: "Brian T.Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org>
To: Ross Lippert <ripper@eskimo.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: an editor in /bin
Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 09:44:14 -0400
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Why not just mount /usr after you get into single-user mode?
On Wednesday 08 May 2002 09:26 am, Ross Lippert wrote:
| One of the shocks I had when booting in single-user mode to
| fix something was the lack of an editor in /bin other than
| ed. I guess my questions are:
|
| 1) is there a better editor in /bin than ed?
|
| 2) (if yes) shouldn't there be a better editor in /bin than ed?
| FreeBSD was a major impetus for me to learn vi (pretty much bc emacs
| is a port). I don't see myself learning something more spartan than
| vi, but maybe there is some value someone can point out using ed.
|
| 3) (if yes) should that editor be vi or ee?
| One piece of good user-friendliness which has happened recently in
| freebsd is the use of ee as the default editor in sysinstall instead
| of vi. This has been very helpful for newbies. I can attest to
| sitting over the shoulder of one newbie who has gone on to learn vi,
| but would have freaked out if her first taste of it was during the
| install. She got through ee just fine. I'd really like to see ee
| used as the default editor in vipw as well, for the sake of
| consistency (eepw, anyone?).
|
| On the other hand, vi needs to be learned for certain tasks like vipw
| and visudo (assuming ee versions of these gadgets can't easily be
| made), so vi is here to stay, and perhaps anyone who can't use vi has
| no business booting freeBSD into single-user mode.
|
| space considerations:
| vi is 304k, ee is 54k, ed is 138k
|
|
| -r
|
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