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Date:      Sun, 19 Mar 2000 23:41:50 -0500
From:      Laurence Berland <stuyman@confusion.net>
To:        Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Small spaces
Message-ID:  <38D5AC0E.D2906589@confusion.net>
References:  <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net> <20000318215028.C15998@lava.net>

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What's worked for me now is: No X or games, no ports tree, only kernel
source.  Right now I don't have a network because we were using dialups,
but at last DSL is here, so I'll compile my kernel locally, and then
once I have everything set, i'll delete the sources and nfs mount them,
and i'll install the ports tree (could those be mounted too? or will
that cause issues?).  Alternatively, I could just add a big hd to this
and have the other machines NFS mount off this (but the other machines
are so much faster...). Perhaps i'll find some money (yea right, I need
to go to school [but I need a summer internship, if you're readin:)])
and build a system around the PPro I just grabbed on eBay...ah to
dream.  Let's get Bell Atlantic here with DSL first though.  Thanks
everyone for your help

Grateful as ever, and always learning something new, 
Laurence

PS:  If I do enough crunchgen(1)ing, how small can bin and sbin get?

Clifton Royston wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:40:14PM -0500, Laurence Berland wrote:
> > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 3.4 on an old 486 I've got lying around to
> > use as a NATing firewall for my home network, but I've only got a 200
> > Meg HD around.  I'm gonna go get another HD later, but right now I'd
> > like to get running with just that.  So far I've been trying with 16 to
> > swap and various other combinations, but it always seems to run out of
> > /usr space.  I figure / should be at least 32MB, and the rest (~152MB)
> > goes to /usr.  I'm trying to install the binaries, the docs, and the
> > kernel source (but not the rest of the source).  Any idea if it's even
> > possible?  Should I shrink down the root partition more?
> 
>   32 is pretty minimal, I think; / will use nearly all of that.  You
> should try to see if you can trim what's in /usr a bit.  Have you made
> sure to ditch the games, as well as X?  If you skip your kernel source
> and do your compiles on another box (which I think you'd want to do
> anyway!) you could ditch the kernel source, and then all the essential
> binaries should be sure to fit into the remaining space of /usr.
> 
>   It should be doable; I had a very similar config (486-120, 16MB RAM,
> 240MB HD) running just a few months ago on OpenBSD 2.5, which is pretty
> similar in size of essential binaries & data space.  Similar
> application, too - home network firewall, in my case with IP filtering
> for a DSL connection.  (After a bit it got to be too much of a pain, so
> last month I bought the smallest new hard drive I could find; this
> turned out to be about 4GB, and space is no longer an issue.)
> 
>   -- Clifton
> 
> --
>  Clifton Royston  --  LavaNet Systems Architect --  cliftonr@lava.net
>       The named which can be named is not the Eternal named.

-- 
Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate (In NYC)
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