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Date:      Tue, 19 Jan 2021 18:20:41 +0100
From:      "Lizbeth Mutterhunt, PhD" <lizbethmutterhunt@gmail.com>
To:        Roger Pau Monn? <royger@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-xen@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: either xen or custom
Message-ID:  <2889120.fEyhCgFcho@freebsd-current>
In-Reply-To: <20210119170525.qpf3h4aipefrbdry@Air-de-Roger>
References:  <5536984.Zv9zXsTiuT@freebsd-current> <2113383.sMrx5ctUpN@freebsd-current> <20210119170525.qpf3h4aipefrbdry@Air-de-Roger>

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Op Dienstag, 19. J=E4nner 2021 18:05:25 CET schreef u:
> Adding freebsd-xen mailing list for reference.
did this, too.=20
=20
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 05:04:21PM +0100, Lizbeth Mutterhunt, PhD wrote:
> > Op Dienstag, 19. J=E4nner 2021 15:06:45 CET schreef u:
> > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 3:46 PM Lizbeth Mutterhunt, PhD
> > >=20
> > > <lizbethmutterhunt@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Op Donnerstag, 14. J=E4nner 2021 09:21:09 CET schreef u:
> > Hi Roger,
> >=20
> > just to introduce myself a bit:
> >=20
> > !!!thx for your reply and concerns!!!
> >=20
> > I keep in mind that this certain kind of support isn't self-understandi=
ng
> > and will one day be to your advantage, too! For myself: I ask to much a=
nd
> > answer too little in forums, etc., as I know what to do in certain kind
> > of matters but still too lazy to give a tipp or to post a reply as many
> > others does.
> >=20
> > I'm good in linux, especially Arch Linux, doing projects at the reborn
> > BeOS, Linux and now as my main system on
> >=20
> > [CODE]
> > sudo sysctl hw.model hw.machine hw.ncpu
> > Wachtwoord:
> > hw.model: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 867 @ 1.30GHz
>=20
> So your CPU doesn't support VT-d (AKA IOMMU), and won't be able to
> run FreeBSD/Xen sadly. This is a hardware limitation and there's
> nothing that can be done. The only way to run Xen on that box is to
> use Linux in PV mode, which FreeBSD doesn't support.
no, XEN stays here at BSD!=20
bhyve is this fast as tmc!
=20
> You can check the CPU features at:
>=20
> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/63918/intel-celeron-=
pro
> cessor-867-2m-cache-1-30-ghz.html
> Search for VT-d.
this is the output for information purpose:

"Intel=AE Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) continues from =
the=20
existing support for IA-32 (VT-x) and Itanium=AE processor (VT-i) virtualiz=
ation=20
adding new support for I/O-device virtualization. Intel VT-d can help end=20
users improve security and reliability of the systems and also improve=20
performance of I/O devices in virtualized environments."
=20
> If you want to run FreeBSD/Xen you will need a newer CPU, sadly
> there's no way around that.
aeh! bulls*! but pitty, pitty, you can't request from an 7 year old machine=
=20
everything you want. so heaven stays cloudy but RAPTOR9 willl do? no troubl=
es=20
with (U)EFI there?

> > > > > Do you have a serial console attached to the box so that we could
> > > > > see the log of Xen and FreeBSD booting?
> > > >=20
> > > > how to? every time I boot into xen I have to zpool import -f and mo=
unt
> > > > it
> > > > from rescue CD. Is there a log from the last boot somewhere? I
> > > > duckduckgo'd a bit but couldn't find anything else than the dmesg. =
As
> > > > it
> > > > is not a kernel crash there's nothing in /var/crash and on /var/run=
 I
> > > > have the running boot inside.
> > >=20
> > > You would need to plug a null-modem into the serial port of your box,
> > > or alternatively use something like SoL (Serial over LAN) if your box
> > > supports it.
> >=20
> > could you plz. explain this a bit more exactly? I don't have a LAN-swit=
ch
> > yet but it's planned for connecting the Raspi4 and my upcoming RAPTOR9
> > machine at easter and to have a "night-light" with blinking RX/TX - LED=
S!
> > :-)
> Getting serial out of a box is the only way to diagnose early boot
> problems (ie: kernel issues). See:
>=20
> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-=
set
> up.html
ok, this is something like ssh or things concerning booting without monitor=
 or=20
keybd, understood!=20

> That way you can get the output of FreeBSD or Xen booting in text
> mode, so that you can for example paste it on an email when things go
> wrong.
>=20

so heaven stays a place on earth and clouds change to violet!=20

thx anyway,=20
> Roger.
Lizbeth





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