Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 20:38:25 +1100 From: Jonathan Michaels <jon@welearn.com.au> To: andu <undo@cloud9.net> Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Message-ID: <20000304203823.A29952@phoenix.welearn.com.au> In-Reply-To: <00030321165900.00428@ydl.andu>; from andu on Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 08:45:51PM -0500 References: <200003040130.MAA28760@phoenix.welearn.com.au> <00030321165900.00428@ydl.andu>
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greetings to all, On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 08:45:51PM -0500, andu wrote: > On Fri, 03 Mar 2000, Sue Blake wrote: > > I'm sure this is meant to help and keep things in order but to me it sounds a > little like over medication. > A newbie asks questions to get something going, to > have some motivation to go on. a real newbie ask questions to reasure themselves that ttey are not alone and where to find out about how to do what they are doing. in essance how to learn about the topic at hand. a technically competent unix user who is new to freebsd may ask questions that are appropriate to freebsd-questions in the freebsd-newbies forum by mistake and this sadly has some damaging consequences to those who re new to unix and new to freebsd .. these people would have read the charter and found out what is expected of them in freebsd-newbies and participated accordingly. freebsd-newbies is not for technical support, it is for the learning of how to learn about freebsd and the relevent side issues .. please read the charter. > > FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit > > > > (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. > > It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) > > > > FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about > > installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests > > are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. > > > > FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to > > questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. > > > > FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and > > covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt > > with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on > > our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how > > to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to > > use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, > > moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the > > FreeBSD community. > > I find it rather absurd to have a list where I can ask where I can ask for help. > I asked my question, freebsd-newbies is fro people new to unix, new to freebsd. -newbies is for the asking of question about how to find the answers to questionsabout ones system and about howto learn about freebsd, *bsd and to some degree unix in general. check out the charter. > I got a good answer, others benefited too and that's the > end of the story. I find it hard to believe that a FreeBsd beginner joins a list > just to hang out with other newbies. this is presicely what freebsd-newbies is all about. it is a place were people can fell comfortable about asking the stupid questions that newbies ask about learning how to sk questions, the kind of questions the freebsd-* would get you flamed all the way out past the black stump. freebsd-newbies is a place to congregate, to 'feel sorry', share our joys over our success, have a cry on a shoulder, find another person who understands our feelings about being ridiculed for being new to freebsd -- or just plain new to the whole unix thing. most importantly freebsd-nnewbies is a place to learn about how to learn about freebsd and or unix. also it is a place to comfrtably learn how to participate in a mailinglist based community. this can be quite intimidating when you have never had such experience. just because you may not value the experience dosn't mean that it is of no value, not all people have all knowledge about all things unix .. sorry for teh mild sarcasm. freebsd used to be a place that experience unix people used to go after they cut thier teeth on some commercial unix, now as the market embraces unix in general and linux in particular more and more people are stumbling into the clutches of freebsd et al and need a place to settle down, become familiar with the language, learn how to ask the right questions, learn how to decipher teh at time weirdly cryptic answers and of cource become comfortable with the much harsher world of teh mailinglist. check out the charter .. its all thier in black and white plain as day fro all to read, in good old australian english. warm regards jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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