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Date:      Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:05:22 -0800
From:      Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: New "timeout" api, to replace callout
Message-ID:  <20071202110522.A22571@xorpc.icir.org>
In-Reply-To: <45308.1196617434@critter.freebsd.dk>; from phk@phk.freebsd.dk on Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 05:43:54PM %2B0000
References:  <20071202.093603.228972203.imp@bsdimp.com> <45308.1196617434@critter.freebsd.dk>

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On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 05:43:54PM +0000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <20071202.093603.228972203.imp@bsdimp.com>, "M. Warner Losh" writes:
> >In message: <19827.1196612123@critter.freebsd.dk>
> >            "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
> >: In message <20071202.085545.177225588.imp@bsdimp.com>, "M. Warner Losh" writes:
> >: 
> >: >There are a number of places in the tree that use a parameter of '1'
> >: >today to mean "next time that's convenient."  Some of these places are
> >: >clever and know that HZ is never < 100 or > 1000 (or so they think),
> >: >while others are just sloppy code.
> >: 
> >: Yes, but those can hardly be called "concrete" in terms of wanting
> >: to know what they mean, can they ? :-)
> >: 
> >: The only way I can see we can deal with them in the short term,
> >: is to ask for timeouts of "1000000 / hz, TIMEOUT_USEC"
> >
> >Or have a "timeout_soon" function like you have the other timeout
> >conversion routines.
> 
> I'm not very keen on offering too much rope.
> 
> Intelligent decisions need to be made about these polling rates and
> making it too easy to not think about it would be to encourage
> bad practices.

the approach 'no less than N, preferably* no more than M' {n|u|m}seconds
that phk suggested looks to me like the correct approach. The programmer
can make his assumptions explicit, and the system can make convenient
decisions without making arbitrary assumptions.

cheers
luigi



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