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Date:      Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:09:42 -0800
From:      "Jason C. Wells" <jcw@highperformance.net>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The beastie boot menu.
Message-ID:  <E4CA6BE85D4FCB85D8F84193@[192.168.1.16]>
In-Reply-To: <xzpis7nheik.fsf@dwp.des.no>
References:  <20041129024602.GA23324@turingmachine.mentalsiege.net> <1101748454.41ab58e61eb88@imp2-q.free.fr><xzpis7nheik.fsf@dwp.des.no>

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--On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:28 AM +0100 Dag-Erling Smørgrav 
<des@des.no> wrote:

> "Jason C. Wells" <jcw@highperformance.net> writes:
>> The beastie menu is just another level of complexity.  It has very
>> little to do with anything.  I had to learn about Forth in order to
>> figure out how to turn it off.
>
> You can't have learned much if you think
>
># echo 'beastie_disable="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf
>
> has anything to do with Forth.

You are correct.  I did not learn much.  I deleted beastie.4th from one of 
the boot scripts.  I don't think beastie_disable was around when I was 
monkeying with this, or I missed it in the docs.  That wasn't the point.

The point was that the boot menu doesn't add anything to the usability and 
that in at least one case, it was an unwelcome distraction.  The deletion 
of the menu is of little significance to regular users.  I didn't even know 
such a thing existed until I recently did my first work on the console in 
several years.  In fact, I haven't even looked to see if my remaining 4X 
boxes have this menu. If I would have done my upgrade to 5X yesterday 
rather than a month ago, I would never have known that the darned thing 
ever appeared in the system.

It's just not important, not even to regular users.  The claim that FreeBSD 
is not suitable to regular users because the beastie menu is gone is silly.

Later,
Jason C. Wells




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