Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 13:34:41 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: thunderbird in German? Message-ID: <20190805133441.76088a3f@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20190805071120.c258204a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <87o91bw4mx.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190731012754.3783a859.freebsd@edvax.de> <878ssc5v3x.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190802060356.eebda021.freebsd@edvax.de> <87tvaz8gkn.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190802213025.884985d57dbfd7bf20ae4cd5@sohara.org> <87lfw9bxeb.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190804093710.66948e68@archlinux> <20190805071120.c258204a.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:11:20 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> Btw. way closer to Thunderbird features is Evolution. Claws and >> Sylpheed are lightweight, but might miss features one or the other >> user might need. > >That's why it's important to evaluate beforehand which features are >needed by the users. Lightweight doesn't always mean usable _in a >specific setting_, but it _could_ be, depending on the features >needed. And you're right that Evolution is hardly "lightweight", >but more like Thunderbird in terms of provided features. Today I got rid of several Evolution issues. I suspect the culprit that Evolution was buggy after closing and upgrading evolution is related to the fact, that Evolution does not terminate all processes after closing it. Today I killed evolution related processes before launching it again. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ evolution (evolution-alarm-notify:10419): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 13:17:49.865: Your application did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction. Consider using g_application_run(). Error sending IPC message: Broken pipe Error sending IPC message: Broken pipe Error sending IPC message: Broken pipe Error sending IPC message: Broken pipe Error sending IPC message: Broken pipe (evolution:10413): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 13:18:30.109: Your application did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction. Consider using g_application_run(). [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ps aux | grep evolution rocketm+ 8640 0.0 0.3 404416 26532 ? Ssl 12:28 0:00 /usr/lib/evolution-source-registry rocketm+ 8646 0.0 0.7 661092 57804 ? Sl 12:28 0:00 /usr/lib/evolution-data-server/evolution-alarm-notify rocketm+ 8653 0.0 0.3 924600 30576 ? Ssl 12:28 0:00 /usr/lib/evolution-calendar-factory rocketm+ 8662 0.0 0.3 691876 28336 ? Ssl 12:28 0:00 /usr/lib/evolution-addressbook-factory rocketm+ 10546 0.0 0.0 7556 2352 pts/1 S+ 13:18 0:00 grep evolution [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pkill -9 evolution [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ps aux | grep evolution rocketm+ 10549 0.0 0.0 7556 2372 pts/1 S+ 13:18 0:00 grep evolution [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ Lightweight apps don't run several processes. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ps aux | grep -eclaws -esylp rocketm+ 10551 3.2 2.3 282748 190260 ? S 13:19 0:13 claws-mail rocketm+ 10657 0.0 0.0 8508 3652 ? S 13:19 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/chuser sylpheed rocketm+ 10659 0.2 0.3 111564 29404 ? S 13:19 0:01 gksudo -u chuser sylpheed root 10660 0.0 0.0 34464 6608 ? Ss 13:19 0:00 /usr/bin/sudo -H -S -p GNOME_SUDO_PASS -u chuser -- sylpheed chuser 10686 0.0 0.4 112380 38300 ? S 13:19 0:00 sylpheed rocketm+ 10720 0.0 0.0 7424 2304 pts/0 R+ 13:26 0:00 grep -eclaws -esylp [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ps -T -p 10551 PID SPID TTY TIME CMD 10551 10551 ? 00:00:14 claws-mail [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ps -T -p 10686 PID SPID TTY TIME CMD 10686 10686 ? 00:00:00 sylpheed It does look a little bit confusing, because I run sylpheed as another user.
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