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Date:      Mon, 22 Jun 2026 12:49:58 +0200
From:      =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Faraz Vahedi <kfv@kfv.io>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>,  Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>,  Warner Losh <imp@freebsd.org>,  src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org,  dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org,  Nuno Teixeira <eduardo@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: git: 28cecfe27964 - main - libc: Restrict ATOMIC_VAR_INIT for C23 conformance
Message-ID:  <864iiusvc9.fsf@ltc.des.dev>
In-Reply-To: <20418B20-C033-4360-B5F9-0BA39609FA4D@kfv.io> (Faraz Vahedi's message of "Mon, 22 Jun 2026 14:05:35 %2B0330")
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Faraz Vahedi <kfv@kfv.io> writes:
> That distinction is well understood, but I think removals tied to a
> specific standard version are cases worth considering separately.
>
> In this case for example, ATOMIC_VAR_INIT is only removed from C23, so
> the relevant question is not which interfaces we choose to expose, but
> rather whether the compiler is operating in C23 mode.

No.  Using __STDC_VERSION__ here would mean “this library feature only
works when compiled by a certain compiler” which is not the case.

> Assume the default standard mode of a compiler is C17, internal
> visibility policy is set to C23, this is absolutely expected to have,
> say ATOMIC_VAR_INIT (that has been deprecated since C17 but remained
> available until removed in C23,) if not explicitly compiled for
> C23.

That's the fault of whomever decided to request that specific
combination of C compiler and library version.

DES
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@FreeBSD.org


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