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Date:      Sun, 8 Nov 1998 08:39:20 +1100 
From:      lee@ringworld.com.au
To:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: The infamous dying daemons bug
Message-ID:  <37BC9CD65406D111AB5400E029071934030FF9@chiron.ringworld.com.au>

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I look after 2 FreeBSD machines. The SCSI-based machine (vallona) gets the
"signal 11" error when the swap utilisation goes above 75%. The second
machine which has a single IDE disk never has the problem.
I have included the dmesg output for each and yes the problem has been going
on for many months.
Hope the additional info helps track it down.
Regards,
Lee
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VALLONA dmesg output
Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #26: Fri Nov  6 20:53:12 EST 1998
    root@vallona.csccs.com.au:/usr/src/sys/compile/VALLONA
<mailto:root@vallona.csccs.com.au:/usr/src/sys/compile/VALLONA> 
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.96-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x52b  Stepping=11
  Features=0x1bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8>
real memory  = 25165824 (24576K bytes)
config> quit
avail memory = 21684224 (21176K bytes)
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0: <Intel 82437FX PCI cache memory controller> rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0
chip1: <Intel 82371FB PCI to ISA bridge> rev 0x02 on pci0.7.0
de0: <Digital 21040 Ethernet> rev 0x23 int a irq 10 on pci0.14.0
de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.3
de0: address 08:00:2b:e5:9d:f9
ahc0: <Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.15.0
ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
ed0 not found at 0x280
fe0 not found at 0x300
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
lp0: TCP/IP capable interface
psm0 not found at 0x60
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
wdc0 not found at 0x1f0
wdc1 not found at 0x170
wt0 not found at 0x300
mcd0 not found at 0x300
matcdc0 not found at 0x230
scd0 not found at 0x230
ie0: unknown board_id: f000
ie0 not found at 0x300
ep0 not found at 0x300
ex0 not found
le0 not found at 0x300
lnc0 not found at 0x280
ze0 not found at 0x300
zp0 not found at 0x300
cs0 not found at 0x300
adv0 not found at 0x330
bt0 not found at 0x134
aha0 not found at 0x134
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
de0: enabling 10baseT port
sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
sa0: <HP HP35480A T603> Removable Sequential Access SCSI2 device 
sa0: 5.0MB/s transfers (5.0MHz, offset 8)
da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
da2: <QUANTUM FIREBALL1080S 1Q09> Fixed Direct Access SCSI2 device 
da2: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 8)
da2: 1042MB (2134305 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1042C)
da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <SEAGATE ST31230N 0300> Fixed Direct Access SCSI2 device 
da0: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 1010MB (2069860 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1010C)
changing root device to da0s1a
da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0
da1: <IBM DORS-32160 S83B> Fixed Direct Access SCSI1 device 
da1: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da1: 2015MB (4127761 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 2015C)
de0: enabling 10baseT port
de0: enabling Full Duplex 10baseT port
/proxy: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE
(da1:ahc0:0:2:0): tagged openings now 32
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 64
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 63

-------
SNOOPY dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #84: Thu Nov  5 18:58:30 EST 1998
    root@snoopy.ringworld.com.au:/usr/src/sys/compile/SNOOPY
<mailto:root@snoopy.ringworld.com.au:/usr/src/sys/compile/SNOOPY> 
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P54C (119.75-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x526  Stepping=6
  Features=0x1bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8>
real memory  = 16777216 (16384K bytes)
config> quit
avail memory = 13406208 (13092K bytes)
Preloaded a.out kernel "kernel" at 0xf032f000.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0: <Intel 82437VX PCI cache memory controller> rev 0x01 on pci0.0.0
chip1: <Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge> rev 0x00 on pci0.7.0
ide_pci0: <Intel PIIX3 Bus-master IDE controller> rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1
chip2: <Intel 82371SB USB host controller> rev 0x00 int d irq 11 on pci0.7.2
tx0: <SMC 83c170> rev 0x06 int a irq 9 on pci0.9.0
tx0: address 00:e0:29:07:19:34, type SMC9432TX, Auto-Neg 10Mbps 
ahc0: <Adaptec 2940A Ultra SCSI adapter> rev 0x03 int a irq 5 on pci0.10.0
ahc0: aic7860 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/255 SCBs
vga0: <S3 Trio graphics accelerator> rev 0x54 int a irq 11 on pci0.11.0
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
ed0 not found at 0x280
fe0 not found at 0x300
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
lp0: TCP/IP capable interface
psm0 not found at 0x60
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): <QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM2100A>
wd0: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc1 not found at 0x170
wt0 not found at 0x300
mcd0 not found at 0x300
matcdc0 not found at 0x230
scd0 not found at 0x230
ie0: unknown board_id: f000
ie0 not found at 0x300
ep0 not found at 0x300
ex0 not found
le0 not found at 0x300
lnc0 not found at 0x280
ze0 not found at 0x300
zp0 not found at 0x300
cs0 not found at 0x300
adv0 not found at 0x330
bt0 not found at 0x134
aha0 not found at 0x134
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
sa0: <HP HP35480A T603> Removable Sequential Access SCSI2 device 
sa0: 5.0MB/s transfers (5.0MHz, offset 8)
changing root device to wd0s1a
fd0: Seek to cyl 0, but not really there (ST3 = 28<drdy,two_side>)
fd0: Seek to cyl 0, but not really there (ST3 = 28<drdy,two_side>)
fd0: Seek to cyl 0, but not really there (ST3 = 28<drdy,two_side>)
fd0: Seek to cyl 0, but not really there (ST3 = 28<drdy,two_side>)

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
[mailto:owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Brian Feldman
		Sent:	Sunday, November 08, 1998 2:15 AM
		To:	Alexander Litvin
		Cc:	current@FreeBSD.ORG
		Subject:	Re: The infamous dying daemons bug

		avail memory = 78680064 (76836K bytes)
		Device      1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Type
		/dev/wd0s1b    102400    13940    88332    14%
Interleaved
		/dev/wd1s1b    102400    13608    88664    13%
Interleaved
		Total          204544    27548   176996    13%
		swap_pager: suggest more swap space: 157 MB
		swap_pager: out of swap space
		pid 14846 (memory), uid 1000, was killed: out of swap space
		pid 14846 (memory), uid 1000, was killed: out of swap space

		No problems at all. Cron runs (at works), inetd works, exim
works...

		Cheers,
		Brian Feldman

		On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Alexander Litvin wrote:

		> In article
<Pine.BSF.4.05.9811061814370.6415-100000@janus.syracuse.net> you wrote:
		> BF> I haven't had this bug. And a 3.0 box at school
doesn't have it either...
		> BF> it's not as common as you think.
		> 
		> Have you beaten your systems to "swap_pager: out of swap
space"?
		> 
		> My system may run for months without any problem. It's
home box
		> -- 32M RAM + 128M swap, and it is enough for day-to-day
operation.
		> But when I artificially overload it, it easily shows all
that
		> sendmails exiting on signal 11, cron jobs not run, etc.
		> 
		> BF> Brian Feldman
		> 
		> --- 
		> Did you know ...
		> 
		> 
		> 
		> 
		> 
		> 
		> 
		> That no-one ever reads these things?
		> 
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