Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 14:18:34 +0100 From: void <void@f-m.fm> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NanoBSD: CURRENT unable to compile 13-STABLE : ld: error: args.o: Opaque pointers are only supported in -opaque-pointers mode (Producer: 'LLVM15.0.7' Reader: 'LLVM 14.0.5') Message-ID: <ZCbdqtBXg4bA_cTX@int21h> In-Reply-To: <2E3300BE-5D37-4476-B0CB-7D0ECAE06957@yahoo.com> References: <2E3300BE-5D37-4476-B0CB-7D0ECAE06957.ref@yahoo.com> <2E3300BE-5D37-4476-B0CB-7D0ECAE06957@yahoo.com>
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 07:30:15PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: >Warner Losh <imp_at_bsdimp.com> wrote on >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 22:15:38 UTC : > >> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 3:45 PM void <void@f-m.fm> wrote: >> >> > On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 12:56:53PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: >> > >> > >To my knowledge, FreeBSD has not actively supported newer >> > >FreeBSD building older FreeBSD across versions. >> > >> > Are you sure? I routinely build & run 12.4 and 12-stable bhyve and >> > poudriere jail instances on -current. >> > >Do you use main's toolchain to do your builds of releng/12.4 >and stable/12 ? The first time? Their updating builds? As far >as I can see use of main's toolchain means not using an older >user space (via/in-a chroot, jail, etc.) to do the builds. I don't know in detail about the toolchain. When 12.4 builds on -current, the screen shows it bootstrapping, and I guess this is for 12.4. The reason I commented on what you wrote was because your assertion appeared to me[1] to be incorrect, in that logically following on from that assertion would mean 'don't expect it to work because it's 'not actively supported' meaning that it's 'unsupported'. But I can't contextualise 'actively supported' into 'should work' or 'expected to work' given Warren's comment about 'best effort basis'. I build poudriere jails for 12.4 on -current like so: 1. git -C /usr/src checkout releng/12.4 2. poudriere jail -c -j 124Ramd64 -J12 -m src=/usr/src -b -v releng/12.4 To update: 3. git -C /usr/src checkout releng/12.4 4. git -C /usr/src pull --ff-only 5. then I have to delete and build the jail as in [2] otherwise it'll complain about wrong objectprefix is this workflow incorrect? >A sequence can be bootstrapped by starting from materials for >a pre-built release or snapshot of the older user space and >then update via its internal toolchain. My understanding is >this is the actively supported way, not building older >user spaces directly from a newer user space and its >newer toolchain. It appears to me[1] to be building its own toolchain and building within that. The ports it builds work on the machine it's built for, without errors about things like ABI etc. I don't do any pre-building, and am unsure if the poudriere jailbuilding process does anything outside of the standard build process. [1] non-expert in any of this! --
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