Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 15:42:42 +0900 From: Jun Kuriyama <kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Logo Message-ID: <7mvezb8s9p.wl%kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNEEKPFCAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> References: <9F8AEDEA-0548-4C97-B83F-8258706F59F1@shire.net> <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNEEKPFCAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
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As Greg said, please stop this thread on this list. You can discuss
it on other lists (such as -advocacy@), but -questions@ is not the
place to do.
At Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:13:18 -0800,
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> Chad this is bullshit. First of all the ENTIRE point of this new logo is
> to increase USE of FreeBSD among the people that allegedly will not
> use it because of religious "devil" objections. IN SHORT, this logo
> is FOR THE USERS, NOT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE PROJECT.
>
> And for the users that AREN'T EVEN CURRENTLY USERS YET!
>
> And you are arguing those users should not have a say because
> they are not in the project? And the users in the project shouldn't
> have a say because their betters know better? I thought FreeBSD
> was a collaborative, community effort. Sounds a bit high-handed
> to me, don't you think?
>
> It's kind of like one day I show up at your door and say that "you
> need a neighborhood association" and proceed to go down to the
> city and go through all the paperwork and Bang - now there's a
> neighborhood association in charge of your neighborhood. Then I
> proceed to get some deed restrictions passed that prohibit you
> from painting your house purple, or bright orange, or putting yard
> gnomes in your yard, in the name of neighborhood beautification.
> Then pretty soon I get the association to pass some rules that
> prohibit people from parking cars on the street in front of their
> house. Then I get some rules requiring you to mow your lawn every
> weekend.
>
> You never asked for any of this but because "I" have gone through
> channels and manipulated the politics and paperwork that the city
> has setup for these associations, now you have to kowtow. BUT,
> -I- and doing this FOR YOU. Now, why aren't you appreciative?
>
> In any case from what I've seen the committers IN the project
> didn't have a say either. They got to vote on the contest results,
> they DID NOT get to vote on whether to have the contest at all.
>
> Kind of like how most governments operate - you can choose a
> candidate but you can't choose to NOT have the position filled
> when it's clearly obvious its unneeded.
>
> If the Project really needed a logo separate from Beastie then
> we could have simply cut off his head and made the head the
> logo. That's what NetBSD did a number of years ago before
> they got politically correctified. But as I've pointed out before,
> Beastie WAS the logo!
- --
Jun Kuriyama <kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp> // IMG SRC, Inc.
<kuriyama@FreeBSD.org> // FreeBSD Project
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