Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 16:23:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek <tim@ppp6564.on.sympatico.ca> To: Jamie Bowden <jamie@itribe.net> Cc: ac199@hwcn.org, "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>, Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>, pechter@lakewood.com, softweyr@xmission.com, freebsd-chat@hub.freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTC regulating use of registrations Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.970723160341.17671A-100000@ppp6564.on.sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <199707231911.PAA16607@gatekeeper.itribe.net>
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On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Jamie Bowden wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Tim Vanderhoek wrote:
> [...]
> >
> > Your "right thing" works entirely counter to that. The "right
> > thing" is to raise children who belong to God. In lue of that, you
> > may settle for "realize their full potential" and other such
> > cliches, but _please_, not "bring credit to their family".
>
> You raise them to belong to belong to some non-entity, and then tell them
> they are respected as property? Sorry, my kids will be mine till they
> have enough brains not to walk into traffic without looking both ways,
> then they are their own problem (for the most part of course...your kids
> will always be your kids.)
I probably choose a poor term, given the context.
Points I am making are,
#1) They are FULLY respected as people, regardless of their
social/family position relative to the parent.
This is necessary to develop a good relationship with the children.
I believe that jmb's argument that the purpose of children is to
give "credit to their family" works counter to this. Because I
discredited jmb's ``goal in raising children'', I had to offer my
own substitute. It is #2. For the many who cannot abide by this, I
even mentioned yet another possibility.
#2) The most important decision they make is to give themselves to
God.
These two do not conflict. The idea with #1 is that we do not
discard the children (their opinions, ideas, etc) as somehow being
of less value than ours.
I could also go on to explain that despite #2, a certain equality
exists between God and man, but that goes clearly into the area of
religion, and besides, opinion on that changes every ~50 years or
so, anyways, so I'll leave it.
--
tIM...HOEk
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hoping that the resultant code will run faster.
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