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Date:      Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:26:06 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com>
Cc:        Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>, "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net>,  Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>, Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>,  FreeBSD Current <FreeBSD-current@freebsd.org>, Chris H <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com>
Subject:   Re: When will the FreeBSD (u)EFI work?
Message-ID:  <CANCZdfquXe_zb71kSJ6k8DtOn-UuJwJa803d9ZyGK-RZDpB8oA@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <4C050E22-E571-47ED-87A1-FE1BAC69A073@bsdio.com>
References:  <18df34fe-6256-6e68-ead5-481e83a501fe@freebsd.org> <4C050E22-E571-47ED-87A1-FE1BAC69A073@bsdio.com>

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On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 9:23 PM Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com> wrote:

>
> > On Mar 29, 2020, at 9:11 PM, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > The problem then is that we have treated loader as a
> > continuously-updatable part of the OS, like the kernel, and the update
> > system and development process assumes they get updated in sync.
>
> But at the moment how often do users mount the ESP and update loader.efi
> on it? So it seems it rarely _needs_ to be updated at the moment.
>

True, but as we move from boot1.efi to loader.efi, the need will grow...
Even if we keep boot1.efi, loader.efi will be needed for interesting secure
systems, so we can't cop-out like we have in the past.

Warner



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