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Date:      Wed, 10 May 2000 20:12:56 -0400
From:      Mitch Collinsworth <mkc@Graphics.Cornell.EDU>
To:        Rowan Crowe <rowan@sensation.net.au>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 3.0-R server /var running out of inodes (not a usenet question) 
Message-ID:  <200005110012.UAA83432@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu>
In-Reply-To: Message from Rowan Crowe <rowan@sensation.net.au>  of "Thu, 11 May 2000 09:38:57 %2B1000." <Pine.BSF.4.21.0005110934540.23799-100000@velvet.sensation.net.au> 

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>> >Any reason why you can't move to 3.4-STABLE?
>> 
>> Only the little matter of available time.  This machine is humming along
>> just fine save for this one annoying problem, which I'm guessing is in
>> one of the applications it's running rather than the OS itself.  I've
>
>Maybe I'm just being cautious, but I sat on my hands until 3.2-R
>time... the docs specifically said that it was risky to run 3.0-R on
>production servers, no? :-)

Sure, but I tested it carefully before going production with it.  This
machine's been fine for over a year except for this one problem which
started maybe in December and has happened less than a dozen times total.
The last time before this week was 2 or 3 months ago, so I thought it
had disappeared as mysteriously as it began.

And again, I'm fairly certain it's a race condition in one of the
applications rather than the OS.

>2.2.8-R is still my favourite for small/dedicated routers, 3.x is just too
>bloated.

yah, I'm generally cautious myself, which is why I don't mess with a
working machine without a good reason.  (If it's not broke, don't break
it!)  :-)   But if bloat is your concern, use custom install and install
just the bits you need.  Then rebuild the kernel without all the junk
you don't need there.  And turn off everything you can in inetd.  For my
mind I'll generally install the latest release when doing a new install,
unless there are known problems with it.  There are (known) security
holes in the older ones.  Given that most new server installs (here) are
going to last at least 2 years before being replaced, I don't want to
start out with old bits with known holes.

And fwiw, for routers I prefer routers rather than unix boxes.  We've
used unix boxes for routers in the past and I found it to be problematic.
Other admins couldn't resist the temptation to install other services on
them, or install routing on boxes hosting other services, thereby making
a single box both a server and a router, which in my book is a major
mistake.

-Mitch


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