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Date:      Wed, 27 Jun 2018 19:14:47 -0700
From:      Devin Teske <dteske@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        Devin Teske <dteske@FreeBSD.org>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r335690 - head/sys/kern
Message-ID:  <623F6077-0A89-4D35-9E83-76BF40CC290F@FreeBSD.org>
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> On Jun 27, 2018, at 6:58 PM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org =
<mailto:dteske@freebsd.org>> wrote:
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>> On Jun 27, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com =
<mailto:imp@bsdimp.com>> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org =
<mailto:glebius@freebsd.org>> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 04:11:09AM +0000, Warner Losh wrote:
>> W> Author: imp
>> W> Date: Wed Jun 27 04:11:09 2018
>> W> New Revision: 335690
>> W> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/335690 =
<https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/335690>;
>> W>=20
>> W> Log:
>> W>   Fix devctl generation for core files.
>> W>  =20
>> W>   We have a problem with vn_fullpath_global when the file exists. =
Work
>> W>   around it by printing the full path if the core file name starts =
with /,
>> W>   or current working directory followed by the filename if not.
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>> Is this going to work when a core is dumped not at current working =
directory,
>> but at absolute path? e.g. kern.corefile=3D/var/log/cores/%N.core
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>> Yes. That works.
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>> Looks like the vn_fullpath_global needs to be fixed rather than =
problem
>> workarounded.
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>> It can't be fixed reliably. FreeBSD does not and cannot map a vnode =
to a name. The only reason we're able to at all is due to the name =
cache. And when we recreate a file, we invalidate the name cache. And =
even if we fixed that, there's no guarantee the name cache won't get =
flushed before we translate the name.... Linux can do this because it =
keeps the path name associated with the inode. FreeBSD simply doesn't.
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> They said it couldn't be done, but I personally have done it ...
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> I map vnodes to full paths in dwatch. It's not impossible, just =
implausibly hard.
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> I derived my formula by reading the C code which was very twisty-turny =
and rather hard to read at times (and I have been using C since 1998 on =
everything from AIX and OSF/1 to HP/UX, Cygwin, MinGW, FreeBSD, =
countless Linux-like things, IRIX, and a God-awful remainder of many =
others; the vnode code was an adventure to say the least).
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> You're welcome to see how it's done in /usr/libexec/dwatch/vop_create
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> I load up a clause-local variable named "path" with a path constructed =
from a pointer to a vnode structure argument to VOP_CREATE(9).
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> The D code could easily be rewritten back into C to walk the vnode to =
completion (compared to the D code which is bounded by depth-limit since =
DTrace doesn't provide loops; so you have to, as I have done, use a =
higher-level language wrapper to repeat the code to some desired limit; =
dwatch defaulting to 64 for directory depth limit).
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> Compared this, say, to vfssnoop.d from Chapter 5 of the DTrace book =
which utilizes the vfs:namei:lookup: probes. My approach in dwatch is =
far more accurate, produces full paths, and I've benchmarked it at lower =
overhead with better results.
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> Maybe some of this can be useful? If not, just ignore me.
>=20
> IMHO, there's no benefit from the crazy hoops than the super simple =
heuristic I did: if the path starts with / print it. If the path doesn't =
print cwd / and then the path.
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> I look forward to seeing your conversion of the D to C that works, =
even when there's namespace cache pressure.
>=20

I was looking at the output of "dwatch -dX vop_create" (the -d flag to =
dwatch causes the generated dwatch to be printed instead of executed) =
and thinking to myself:

I could easily convert this, as I can recognize the flattened loop =
structure. However, not many people will be able to do it. I wasn't =
really volunteering, but now I'm curious what other people see when they =
run "dwatch -dX vop_create". If it's half as bad as I think it is, then =
I'll gladly do it -- but will have to balance it against work =
priorities.
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Devin=



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