Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 20:08:04 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry <jerryr@ComCAT.COM> To: megarcia@lix.intercom.es Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How much to pay my ISP for my own Internet domain ? Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9812062002450.12765-100000@uw> In-Reply-To: <19981207100338.V603@freebie.lemis.com>
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Goto www.dnswiz.com $100 USD for the first two year (per domain) to do DNS
and you maintain your record (unlimited whatever.your_doamin.com). You
reg the name yourself at www.internic.net and use the tech info and DNS
info from dnswiz's page.
all you'll already need is a connect and a static ip. Its worked great
for me.
> On Saturday, 5 December 1998 at 21:11:39 +0100, Manuel Enrique Garcia Cuesta wrote:
> > Greetings
> >
> > I have been querying my current ISP about the issues
> > related to my registering and setting up a domain of my own,
> > namely his handing me over a static IP address, his name servers
> > playing secondary for my zone, and his mail machine receiving
> > mail for my domain when my machine is not plugged to the Net
> > (that will be 90% of the time ). I was expecting he would ask
> > for big bucks, what he did. Anyway, being the newbie I am
> > regarding most of the technical stuff I will admit beforehand
> > that the costs he tells me about *might be* reasonable, but I
> > would also like to ask the knowledgeable people in this list an
> > opinion.
> >
> >
> >> * Startup:
> >>
> >> - Static IP: USD 68
>
> I suppose it's reasonable to assume that if you have a static IP,
> you'll be using more resources, *assuming* that this also means a
> guaranteed number to call any time you want.
>
> >> - Domain registration: USD 83
>
> This is pretty much what Internic charges ($75), including the first
> two years' fees.
>
> >> - DNS/SMTP configuration: USD 214
>
> This seems ridiculously high. What do they need to do?
>
> 1. Add a DNS zone. Say, garcia.org. The entry looks like:
>
> zone "garcia.org" {
> type slave;
> file "db.garcia.org";
> masters {192.168.168.192};
> };
>
> That's *all* they need to do. You do the rest.
>
> 2. Add your domain name to /etc/sendmail.cw:
>
> garcia.org
>
> And the want $214 for *that*?
>
>
> >> - Mail delivery procedure: USD 54 (script that
> >> notifies our server that yours is available to receive pending
> >> messages )
>
> Huh? Who are you and who are we? You have two choices with mail:
> SMTP or POP. It seems that you have chosen SMTP, with which I agree.
> When you dial in, you have a script which connects to their smtp
> server and says:
>
> ETRN garcia.org
>
> That's all.
>
> >> * Monthly maintenance:
> >>
> >> - Static IP: USD 22
>
> Is this about the phone line rental? In that case, it might be
> justified.
>
> >> - Domain: USD 27
>
> Huh? They already charge (a) for the registration, which includes the
> first two years' charges and (b) for the name server. This is even
> more than I had to pay to DE-NIC in Germany for having a .de domain.
> Is this maybe the cost of an .es domain, as opposed to a .com or .org
> domain?
>
> >>> 16% VAT
> >
> > This all adds to what they are already setting me back for
> > "normal" Internet access, some USD 25 a month.
> >
> > By the way, I told them I would register the domain myself
> > with the InterNIC.
>
> That's the way to do it. So what's the money for?
>
> > They charge Spanish pesetas obviously, I have applied an
> > aproximate exchange rate.
> >
> > I don't know how important this might be, but I think they
> > are running mainly Linux and perhaps some Windows NT.
>
> You need to find this out.
>
> > I know this question is somewhat off topic, but I don't
> > know of any better place where to ask. Personally, I think it is
> > outrageously expensive, much more than it should be. Somebody
> > please convince me that it's not. Thanks in advance,
>
> I think it is outrageously expensive, much more than it should be.
>
> Depending on where you live, you may not have much choice. But you
> have some. The one thing you *must* have from your ISP is the static
> address. OK, that's not even the most expensive thing (the ongoing
> domain registration stuff is), but you don't get a choice.
>
> Next, you find somebody who will host your name server and secondary
> MX records for you. People who run University systems or some such
> might be pleased to oblige. They don't even need to be near you--for
> example, I have a secondary DNS server in England (I live in
> Australia), though it's a good idea to have relatively good
> connectivity to your next MX.
>
> If you do this, you'll drop the setup costs from $419 to $68, and the
> monthly costs from $49 to $22. The question is: do you know somebody
> who would oblige?
>
> Greg
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