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Date:      Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:17:22 -0800
From:      Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
To:        Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>
Cc:        Gregory Sutter <gsutter@daemonnews.org>, ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: [john@sixgirls.org: [dn-articles] FreeBSD problems: newsworthy?]
Message-ID:  <20010120141722.A34501@tao.thought.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010120234228.A41947@rapier.smartspace.co.za>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:42:28PM %2B0200
References:  <20010120133038.C7492@klapaucius.zer0.org> <20010120234228.A41947@rapier.smartspace.co.za>

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On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:42:28PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
> On Sat 2001-01-20 (13:30), Gregory Sutter wrote:
> > This person seems to be having some trouble with the state of his
> > ports.  I don't think that the Daemon News article submission address
> > is the right place to ask, so I'll forward it here.  Can anyone help him?  
> 
> I've expressed before, and will express again, my incredible dislike of
> this port.mkversion "you have to upgrade or you can't use ports" thing
> from a user level.  Especially since we break it, and don't retain
> support even for the last release.  I previously offered to maintain
> support for the old version of the stuff, provide patches, and so forth,
> but Satoshi said he didn't want them in or something.
> 
> I don't believe it's incredibly hard to provide this compatibility for
> at least the latest release, or maybe even a few releases.  It will also
> irritate users less - I get complaints about it from my converts a lot.
> 

	I'll second this (and third and forth it as well!); I've lost
	count of the times I've been forced to upgrade because X
	didn't work.  And all too often, X still failed because of 
	old libraries or whatever  lingering in some dark corner.

	Over the years, when things have continually failed, I'll
	say "FOO" and telnet to my SuSE box.

	gary


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   Gary D. Kline         kline@tao.thought.org          Public service Unix



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