Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 13:13:09 -0800 From: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> To: Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question on how much of my list messaging is considered inappropriate content for the lists I post to? Message-ID: <5df147fb-b06f-42c0-9107-bd6873f04e33@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20260105005239.28bd15d2b0d13063c6bf240c@gmail.com> References: <BED67752-363D-46EE-8DD6-7FDDC6998EE8@yahoo.com> <7d2a8e91-c78b-4207-a4ab-41056333bdd5@gmail.com> <20260101182647.83e09e83e81605690b1ff0fc@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <20260104180209.585347eb16ad8caf84c43e44@gmail.com> <7cff491e-2c43-4855-995d-917a0e7ce07c@yahoo.com> <358af5ea-92ce-4f79-a4e3-0d51e7c34647@yahoo.com> <20260105005239.28bd15d2b0d13063c6bf240c@gmail.com>
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On 1/4/26 13:52, Anton Shepelev wrote: > Mark Millard: > >> On 1/4/26 11:53, Mark Millard wrote: >> >>> This is a test of using gmane.os.freebsd.current from macOS >>> thunderbird. Use of news.gmane.io looks to be a great >>> suggestion for me. > > It works! Observe, however, that your entire message is one > level of quotation too deep, because you are replying to > yourself, and your entire message is a quotation. I suppose it > is rather a user slip than a Thunderbird bug. Yes. > This should also > explain why your message is an orphan (not part of a thread). In my news.gmane.io context, my oddly quoted message is indented just under your message in the thread and does not appear to be an orphan at all. > . . . To ensure correct threading, take care to reply to > messages from the newsgroup, rather than from your local inbox > or outbox. My few subscriptions that were set up to get mail are now set up for no mail. (Most were nomail in the first place.) On macOS all list reading and message sending/replying now are via news.gmane.io . For my context, it was a great suggestion. Looking at lists on the iPad is still via the normal web interface. I do not send messages from there. > . . . With this list, > this is achieved by sending an e-mail with any content and > subject to: > freebsd-current+subscribe-nomail@FreeBSD.org > If you are already subscribed, it will change your subscripton > mode to no-delivery. news.gmane.io sends out mailman related instructions as most of the lists information have not been updated since before the Mlmmj conversion (Mailing List Software) in 2021-May+ or so. Another oddity is that "encode encrypt" is set for (at least): gmane.os.freebsd.devel.pkg freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org gmane.os.freebsd.jail freebsd-jail@freebsd.org gmane.os.freebsd.devel.virtualization freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org This messes with how things are displayed for reading messages (compared to the lists.freebsd.org web way of reading) when one or more of those are included in the set of lists a message had been sent to. It is trying to make the content anonymous. I sent a request for an adjustment for the one I'm subscribed to: gmane.os.freebsd.devel.pkg . I did not know of the other 2 at the time. > >> I did not notice dev-commits-src-main or >> dev-commits-src-branches or dev-commits-ports-main as >> available. I got dev-commits-src-main wrong: it is there as: gmane.os.freebsd.current.scm dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org With the new UI context, I've changed which ports list I use to one I was not previously using. dev-commits-ports-all . news.gname.io has two selections that reference that: gmane.os.freebsd.ports.scm dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org gmane.os.freebsd.devel.cvs.ports dev-commits-ports-all@FreeBSD.org I'm using the first. The 2nd has a likely false list of (non-equivalent) freebsd-*@freebsd.org aliases reported. > > . . . Take utmost care when filling the > request form and exercise patience while the administrator > processes your request. That page is also useful for searching > for available mailing lists, because group names may be > different. > > > We will see how my request goes. I also asked a question about the potential handling of mailman vs. Mlmmj issue since it is not limited to one or a few gmane.os.freebsd.* . The submittal form is not designed for such issues and 1-by-1 submittals might not be desired. Another possible oddity is the "+" in gmane.os.freebsd.ports.scm having mlmmj+ listed for the Mailing List Software. Thanks again for the reference to news.gmane.io . -- === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.comhome | help
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