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Date:      Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:54:57 +0200
From:      Max Laier <max@love2party.net>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Cc:        Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>, Ian FREISLICH <ianf@clue.co.za>, brooks@freebsd.org, Andrew Thompson <thompsa@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: CFT: new trunk(4)
Message-ID:  <200704122355.05846.max@love2party.net>
In-Reply-To: <20070412210957.GA31864@heff.fud.org.nz>
References:  <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au> <E1Hbs1M-000FWA-7Z@clue.co.za> <20070412210957.GA31864@heff.fud.org.nz>

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On Thursday 12 April 2007 23:09, Andrew Thompson wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:39:00AM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote:
> > Peter Jeremy wrote:
> > > On 2007-Apr-11 15:43:04 +0200, Ian FREISLICH <ianf@clue.co.za>=20
wrote:
> > > >Andrew Thompson wrote:
> > > >> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 11:17:29AM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote:
> > > >> > We're making extensive use of vlans to increase the number of
> > > >> > interfaces availabble to us using switches to break out gigE
> > > >> > into 100M interfaces.  The bandwidth problem we're having is
> > > >> > to our provider, a 100M connection, and we're looking at doing
> > > >> > exactly this.  However, it appears that this interface can't
> > > >> > trunk vlan interfaces.
> > >
> > > =3D2E..
> > >
> > > >No, I'm sure I want it the way I said.  I know it sounds wrong,
> > > > but I just don't have enough PCI-X slots to waste 2 on physical
> > > > 100M NICs for the uplink from the routers.
> > >
> > > Trunking is a way of combining multiple physical interfaces to
> > > increase the bandwidth.  Trunking multiple VLANs on a single
> > > interface doesn't make sense to me.
> >
> > 802.1q is VLAN tagging and trunking.  This interface is LACP - link
> > aggregation.  I really think that it makes no sense to be able to
> > aggregate some ethernet interfaces and not others.  I suppose some
> > pedant will tell me vlan interfaces are not ethernet.
>
> I think the unfortunate name of trunk(4) that we inherited from OpenBSD
> is causing quite some confusion.  trunk(4) actually has nothing to do
> with vlan trunking which I think you are after.
>
> I can see this topic coming up again so it could save some time to
> rename the driver now. It would mean that we lose the naming link to
> the same driver in OpenBSD but you cant win em all.
>
> Some names that have been suggested are:
>
> linkag(4)
> agr(4)
> bond(4)   <- same as linux
>
> Any suggestions!

team(4)
group(4)
gang[bang](4)

;-) .. I'd prefer if we keep the name and a compatible interface as it=20
will allow to reuse documentation.

=2D-=20
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