Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 12:54:58 -0800 From: Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com> To: Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>, Igor Mozolevsky <mozolevsky@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd security <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>, RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs Message-ID: <2fde7b1e-7174-00d1-5fd0-65c385bdcdef@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <5A2D9CEF.9020404@grosbein.net> References: <97f76231-dace-10c4-cab2-08e5e0d792b5@rawbw.com> <5A2709F6.8030106@grosbein.net> <11532fe7-024d-ba14-0daf-b97282265ec6@rawbw.com> <8788fb0d-4ee9-968a-1e33-e3bd84ffb892@heuristicsystems.com.au> <20171205220849.GH9701@gmail.com> <20171205231845.5028d01d@gumby.homeunix.com> <CADWvR2gVn8H5h6LYB5ddwUHYwDtiLCuYndsXhJywi7Q9vNsYvw@mail.gmail.com> <20171210173222.GF5901@funkthat.com> <CADWvR2iGQOtcU=FnU-fNsso2eLCCQn=swnOLoqws%2B33V8VzX1Q@mail.gmail.com> <5c810101-9092-7665-d623-275c15d4612b@rawbw.com> <CADWvR2j_LLEPKnSynRRmP4LG3mypdkNitwg%2B7vSh=iuJ=JU09Q@mail.gmail.com> <fd888f6b-bf16-f029-06d3-9a9b754dc676@rawbw.com> <CADWvR2jnxVwXmTA9XpZhGYnCAhFVifqqx2MvYeSeHmYEybaNnA@mail.gmail.com> <19bd6d57-4fa6-24d4-6262-37e1487d7ed6@rawbw.com> <5A2D8CDF.80903@grosbein.net> <f374ad86-f69c-115d-60f0-5251fba4b6d6@rawbw.com> <5A2D9CEF.9020404@grosbein.net>
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On 12/10/17 12:45, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 11.12.2017 3:37, Yuri wrote: > >> On 12/10/17 11:37, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >>> Hmm, you should not pass your traffic through the network operated >>> by lots of malicious operators in first place. No matter encrypted or not. >>> There are plenty of alternative ways. >> >> Modern encryption protocols allow you to send traffic over insecure networks and still maintain your security and privacy, so why not? > No, they don't. You get into MITM and then you have a choice: ignore and run your connection anyway > or have no connectivity at all (using this channel). Both are bad, so don't use such a channel from the beginning. There's no MITMing with https unless you are a state actor. There are very few state actors, they are special case. Regular hackers can't MITM https, but can MITM http. Yuri
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