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Date:      Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:20:04 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Andreas Braukmann <braukmann@tse-online.de>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: What are the advantages of ELF kernels?
Message-ID:  <199901120020.QAA98154@apollo.backplane.com>

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:Hi Matt,
:
:(slightly off-topic ...)
:
:On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 01:24:01PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote:
:>     I always like to say:  ELF is on par with the Amiga's object/link/binary
:>     format.  It's nice to see UNIX finally catch up.  <GRIN>!
:I've been wondering all the time, if you might really be _that_
:Matt Dillon, who gave this awesome kick-ass editor to the amiga-community
:in the late eighties?
:
:-Andreas

    One word!

	http://www.backplane.com/dice/

    Which just points to www.obviously.com, which is hosted on one of 
    my BEST accounts.  Hmm.. speaking of which, I should probably shift
    that domain over to backplane, I don't know how long the account will
    last now that I'm leaving BEST.  Er, BEST/Hiway.   Er.  Verio.  Ugh.

    I haven't worked on DICE much for a couple of years, but as my last major
    act I did fix it up so it could be compiled up on a UNIX box (aka linux,
    FreeBSD) and used as 68K C cross compiler -- everything except the FP 
    support.  I still use it for embedded 68000 work.  It won't generate 
    op codes for higher-end cpus and can't handle huge structures due to the
    way the code generator works (it's in love with 68K 16 bit register 
    relative instructions), but it is still a nice piece of work.  The source 
    is available free now too so if you ever wanted to know what the insides
    of DICE looked like, you can pop it off the site and look at it. 
    It's some of the best code I had ever written.

    GCC would probably do a better job even for embedded stuff now-a-days, but
    DICE generated enough income in its shareware days for me to help get
    BEST.COM started 4 years ago.

						-Matt

    Matthew Dillon  Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet 
                    Communications & God knows what else.
    <dillon@backplane.com> (Please include original email in any response)    

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