Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 18:49:56 -0400 From: Joe Schaefer <joesuf4@gmail.com> To: fvalasiad <fvalasiad@proton.me> Cc: "tomek@cedro.info" <tomek@cedro.info>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, "imp@bsdimp.com" <imp@bsdimp.com>, "asomers@freebsd.org" <asomers@freebsd.org>, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> Subject: Re: The Case for Rust (in the base system) Message-ID: <CAOzHqcJbPNKsTATjH0gP4v2c3Een%2BMLGdcP5zUAruQhMGjNWtw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <DuWbGf8iSniKPEKNXlBWoI8nqahTslvbZ15uAUVUnGm4GQ4Nbf0Uh9wZ3pfsn0lXn69CprT62khH-yUNXPfVYFGJ02UY63J1Akk1ORmo1RU=@proton.me> References: <CAOtMX2hAUiWdGPtpaCJLPZB%2Bj2yzNw5DSjUmkwTi%2B%2BmyemehCA@mail.gmail.com> <vdmg5zocd6wqcwc2bvzvzqn4bii2pwdc2r4mgnisukfkboj6nf@f7lv5quu4fjx> <CAOtMX2iDK3uN_oQgzzZAdoOZCfNsnvpefeZvKoTCRmPBhZywzA@mail.gmail.com> <CANCZdfqB1%2B-8BkpKwKoCM%2BzM4mCOFy63yHr1Pco7MnT1DFkb4w@mail.gmail.com> <knnsh327gxyvaajwrymvflnivf3tsnigyqw2d6etfhb4irft3x@ydkh3zmb6uch> <CANCZdfoHjYUDeNo78qk6BjHfRgwgDbuuVjD5D9uG6tyCk81-ew@mail.gmail.com> <Zq69w1D7aYRiNdPx@kib.kiev.ua> <CAFYkXjmURZwBbrFL=uWT%2BDZ6h_qjjpoucxW4-3CpDhKn3XX2gg@mail.gmail.com> <DuWbGf8iSniKPEKNXlBWoI8nqahTslvbZ15uAUVUnGm4GQ4Nbf0Uh9wZ3pfsn0lXn69CprT62khH-yUNXPfVYFGJ02UY63J1Akk1ORmo1RU=@proton.me>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] It is a shitty tool by engineering standards, because it is 1/ nonportable, 2/ non backwards compatible, 3/ immature (compiler segfaults). The world can wait for the tool to stabilize in order to get wide scale adoption. On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 6:30 PM fvalasiad <fvalasiad@proton.me> wrote: > Rust's poor ecosystem and lack of a standard library doesn't really help. > > Its fans are also a loud minority. The sooner people start looking at it > the proper way, as a tool, brighter days for Linux will come. Hopefully the > time will come for that. > > For the time being, it truly is a burden though! I'd call it an > investment, patience people! > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > On 9/3/24 01:23, Tomek CEDRO wrote: > > Rust for Linux maintainer steps down in frustration with 'nontechnical > nonsense'. > > Community seems to C Rust more as a burden than a benefit > > > https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/02/rust_for_linux_maintainer_steps_down/ > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > > [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="auto">It is a shitty tool by engineering standards, because it is </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">1/ nonportable,</div><div dir="auto">2/ non backwards compatible,</div><div dir="auto">3/ immature (compiler segfaults).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The world can wait for the tool to stabilize in order to get wide scale adoption.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 6:30 PM fvalasiad <<a href="mailto:fvalasiad@proton.me">fvalasiad@proton.me</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Rust's poor ecosystem and lack of a standard library doesn't really help.</p> <p dir="ltr">Its fans are also a loud minority. The sooner people start looking at it the proper way, as a tool, brighter days for Linux will come. Hopefully the time will come for that.</p> <p dir="ltr">For the time being, it truly is a burden though! I'd call it an investment, patience people!</p> <div><br><br>-------- Original Message --------</div><div><br>On 9/3/24 01:23, Tomek CEDRO <u></u> wrote:<br><blockquote><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Rust for Linux maintainer steps down in frustration with 'nontechnical nonsense'.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Community seems to C Rust more as a burden than a benefit</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/02/rust_for_linux_maintainer_steps_down/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/02/rust_for_linux_maintainer_steps_down/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">--<br>CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, <a href="http://www.tomek.cedro.info" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.tomek.cedro.info</a></div></div>; </blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div>
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