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Date:      Thu, 23 Jan 2003 03:05:24 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, Cheen Liao <cheen@synology.com>, freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Transaction File System - a replacement of JFS
Message-ID:  <3E2FCC74.9485901C@mindspring.com>
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"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote:
> And, in a year, they'll have to do 4.8->5.1 or 4.8->5.2, which will be
> MUCH more of a hell than 5.0->5.1 or 5.2.

But MUCH less hell than porting 4.7->5.0, then 5.0-5.1, then 5.1->5.2...


> The 5.x branch _will_ become stable. Anything not fitting the timeline
> will be bumped to 6.x.

Be sure and annouce it, so that people targetting 4.x can consider
starting their porting efforts.  8-).


> The question is... will their product be finished in three or four
> months, for the remaining life of 4.x to be of any use?

People asked that same question in 2001, when 5.x was supposed
to be imminent, too.  5.x releases, if they come with any speed
at all, will be bug fixes, and features that weren't permitted
in 5.0 because waiting almost two years for 5.0 would have been
way too long.

The answer is that 4.x, as a developement platform, is a better
choice, even if you plan on shipping on some other platform.  I
did tons of developemnt on FreeBSD that shipped on other OS's;
the approach worked because I got my code stable, without having
to really give a damn about the underlying platform past the point
of "yeah, it's there, let me concentrate on my product".

Look, I understand why the project wants vendors to target 5.x;
the project needs to understand why vendors want to target 4.x.

Pesonally, I would not bet my job on meeting a schedule for a
product that was intended to ship on 5.x, if the product ws
intended to be release in a year or less, at this point...
would you?

I'll stop now, so that this doesn't turn into a "what's wrong
with 5.x" diatribe.

-- ery

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