Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:07:31 -0800 From: Chip Camden <sterling@camdensoftware.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone?? Message-ID: <20101112160731.GB80913@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20101112012551.GD35128@guilt.hydra> References: <201011100009.oAA09mfG024502@mail.r-bonomi.com> <op.vlxpejtrhalquq@n200> <20101110175717.GB23184@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20101110180915.00005202@unknown> <20101112012551.GD35128@guilt.hydra>
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--SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 11 November 2010: > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 06:09:15PM +0000, Bruce Cran wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:57:17 -0800 > > Chip Camden <sterling@camdensoftware.com> wrote: > >=20 > > > However, for automating repeated tasks (as distinguished from running > > > automated tests of the GUI itself), scripting a GUI is the wrong way > > > to do it. It's layering on an entirely unnecessary layer of > > > abstraction (the UI), and then working around it. > >=20 > > This is why at least on Windows there's often a C/COM/.NET API that > > allows the same level of control that the GUI provides, so that > > customers can automate tasks. >=20 > It's too bad such APIs require so much more knowledge, and present so > much more of a barrier to entry for automating tasks, than a simpler CLI > filter's interface provides via something like the Unix pipeline. >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] True -- let's say the customer wants to have their application send email notifications. If I tell the customer to open a pipe to mutt or mail, they can pop that in and test it in a few minutes. If they have to automate Outlook, or use the MAPI or CDO interfaces, then we're talking abo= ut a project. In fact, I've billed quite a few hours doing just that sort of work. If all I cared about was the money I could fleece off of them, then = I'd steer more customers towards these unnaturally complex solutions. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM3WZDAAoJEIpckszW26+RH8IH/idUK4lqoqPoFXtFPAxmetGx I+3tGj+cVssEYNBeRUmiIC28oOcz5e48ZlDDuIOPJ5vWZ+oPvNuryUoDzR4r2A3N CczXxy5vHYHTHmuCCc/8F7KSeHeOHnU8AorVgdfpNyurJ5aWtQwGMITFmaAdStH8 tXbEPGyPLYn/pT5ojRcCxod+NLqRhuWY6gNW/bgtR/SbGU4x8EeLKesDU5DbTafz cT26BuO4zj5c03h/kf3xo/lg7yM6w1UcOg+UdTjjKl8MV/9ABWu91npoTYBlK+aO xAYzHZlV5GNRPe32e3jNbwuzuM+GOI9Fg5XVsLShOvipKA1g8k/DFbygoEg5BOk= =NnEX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ--
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