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Date:      Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:10:33 +0200
From:      "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To:        samy@kerneled.org
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: The recent TIOCREMOTE removal 
Message-ID:  <1897.1089889833@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 15 Jul 2004 06:58:19 EDT." <29087.62.3.32.33.1089889099.squirrel@www.kerneled.org> 

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In message <29087.62.3.32.33.1089889099.squirrel@www.kerneled.org>, samy@kernel
ed.org writes:
>The changes committed with revision 1.127 of tty_pty.c and the appropriate
>changes to the ttycom.h file remove the TIOCREMOTE ioctl. The commit
>message was as follows:
>   "It was added 22 years ago for emacs to use, but emacs gave up on it
>    it 17 years ago."
>
>Ignoring the fact that many operating systems have TIOCREMOTE implemented
>(meaning, FreeBSD provides a nice new portability issue for now and the
>unknowing future), several ports are *already* broken due to this.

I'm only aware of two ?  And I'm currently investigating them.

>This ioctl is widely implemented, and even though not a fad of any
>sort, it is used where it should be. The functionality it provides is
>of use. I think it would be feasible if someone was to roll-back the
>both sys/ttycom.h and kern/tty_pty.c

Please provide better evidence of current usage.

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