Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:32:15 +0200 From: John Angelmo <john@veidit.net> To: Mark Koskenmaki <bsdlists@nwbombers.com> Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE Message-ID: <3D40442F.6060100@veidit.net> References: <200207251729.g6PHT0DJ001492@inetworx.pcgameauthority.com> <016701c23404$01d14280$0702a8c0@win98>
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Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > Ok, let me elaborate: > > I'm not trying to keep people off the network. > > I'm not trying to prevent spying on data. I'm not trying to prevent wrong > MAC addresses from accessing the network. > > I'm trying to prevent access to the internet THROUGH the network without > username/password. > > The network will be private - 192.168.100.XXX and the idea is for anyone > who's interested and can get the signal, TO configure and get access. Once > they do, they enter a url in thier browser, reach a webserver with forms to > allow them to sign up. I would suppose a VPN might do this, as well. > Either way, once they sign up, they can log in using ppp. This way I don't > care if they change machines, or use thier account on a desktop AND laptop.. > .just not both at once. For those who "share" connections via win98, > me, xp, 2k, whatever, it's all proxied, and those machines do not appear on > my network. > > It just appeared to me that PPPoE would be relatively simple to set up. > Or, via a VPN. I have just never seen a VPN, but believed they put quite > a bit of extra overhead on the network, reducing throughput. > > Now, am I shooting in the dark here, or what??? > > > Mark Koskenmaki > webmaster: www.nwbombers.com > contact me offlist at mark@gotourown.com > 10 of every 8 people are mathematically challenged > "Beware anyone who can fake sincerity." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andre Hall <ahall@pcgameauthority.com> > To: John Angelmo <john@veidit.net>; Mark Koskenmaki > <bsdlists@nwbombers.com>; <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: PPPoE > > > >>Well, that doesn't really answer his question. ALl you did is open up >>a new can of worms. The 802.11x can be secured as I have sent John an >>email explaining how to do it. Yes, VPN is an additional component to >>the secure transmittion of his data across the network. Not to flame >>you Mark but I think some of us more experienced owe it to the newbies >>to give a bit more direction to their needs. >>There are also many web sites available giving examples on how this >>can be done. One of my favorites is >>http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/wireless_secure.htm >>Hope this helps as well. >> >> >>>Mark Koskenmaki wrote: >>> >>>>I would like to secure (that is, keep people from getting access >>> >>through or >> >>>>past) my wireless network. Is anyone familiar with using PPPoE >>> >>on a >> >>>>windows (98, 2K, XP, ME) to connect to a freebsd based >>> >>PPPoE "server"? >> >>>>I have no idea how it would be done, but it seems like a very >>> >>sensible and >> >>>>slick idea to overcome the limitations of 802.11b network (in) >>> >>security. >> >>>>Anyone? (consider me a total newbie, here) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>PPPoE isn't recomended for this since it's so easy to spoof, my >>>recomendation is a VPN connection. >>> >>>/John >>> >>> >>>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>>with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >>-- >>NeoMail - Webmail that doesn't suck... as much. >>http://neomail.sourceforge.net >> >> > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message Ah perhaps this is something for you then: http://nocat.net/ /John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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