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Date:      Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:57:18 -0800
From:      Beech Rintoul <beech@alaskaparadise.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        Olivier Nicole <on@cs.ait.ac.th>, kitt1411@hotmail.com, pirat@access.inet.co.th, doi maesalong <doimaesalong@charter.net>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD users of Thailand
Message-ID:  <200606141257.37325.beech@alaskaparadise.com>
In-Reply-To: <003401c68faa$08d029b0$6500a8c0@amd>
References:  <e5bf9f3a0606131852m6e1abc3fv@mail.gmail.com> <200606140934.k5E9YPqm035393@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <003401c68faa$08d029b0$6500a8c0@amd>

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You might want to look at DesktopBSD.

http://www.desktopbsd.net

This is very easy to install for new users.

Beech


On Wednesday 14 June 2006 03:59, doi maesalong wrote:
> Dear Mr Nicole
> Thanks for the response. It is very nice that someone from the local
> academic institution  is interested in this particular problem.
> We willl need all the helps we can get.
>
> I am not sure if you see the underlying problems the new users in Thailand
> encountered.
>
> From  the thai webboard ( such as in www.thaibsd.com. This site is run by
> one of the staff at teacher college in Pitsanulok,Thailand - though it's
> domain name ends with dot com , this is not a commercial site. it was for
> the sake of convenience to get the site up quickly. Another site is
> http://www.thai-aec.org/forum/ ) , we noticed that the newbies faces a lot
> of problems during installation. Few commonly encountered problems are :
> 1 CD error ( burned from download iso )
> 2 incomplete software ( again error from either during download or during
> burning CD) . I encountered this problem myself inspite of correct MD5. So
> common occuring such that I resorted to obtaining the CD by direct orderi=
ng
> from FreeBSD Mall. And yet , I got error from the purchased disk. Perhaps
> this might be due to my old hardware.
> 3 Another very common complaint from the webboard is the failure during
> porting. This is a very common indeed. And this, in my opiniion having be=
en
> in the same situation before, is very discouraging for the new users
> indeed. And as you might know,  compounding with the slow modem speed most
> user had in Thailand,this will certainly discourage the new users to pers=
ue
> the FreeBSD route. I do not think this is FreeBSD problem but rather the
> unfamiliarity of the FreeBSD and porting system on the new users part (
> perhaps they do not have latest port ).
> 4 the root of all problem is our lack goof background in english.
>
> What we have in our plan is to have an autorun cd filled with OS &
> necessary application softwares. Everything is in the CD so that users do
> not have to download ( only one option to install the software for users =
to
> select  ie, from CD). One last important thing is to have instruction to
> the user in Thai language ( we will definitely need someone to help on th=
is
> ie. writing command ( in shell script or ???)  to automate the whole
> process, since most of us have no experience or know how.)
>
> This approach should have the new users up and running quickly without
> bandwidth problem or missing dependency files.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help. We definitely need your help.
>
> Regards,
>
> Somner Srivisal
>
> ps. I am currently living in the US and having been in contact with Khun
> presert regarding this matter. This proves that "The world is Flat" ( by
> Thomas Friedman )
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Olivier Nicole" <on@cs.ait.ac.th>
> To: <freedesktop.freebsd@gmail.com>
> Cc: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; <pirat@access.inet.co.th>;
> <doimaesalong@charter.net
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:34 AM
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD users of Thailand
>
> > Khun Prasert,
> >
> > Good initiative, very good idea.
> >
> > Well I have more interest in the server use of FreeBSD and obviously I
> > cannot read Thai, but if I can help...
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Olivier
> > Pathumthani
> >
> >
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