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Date:      Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:53:31 -0700
From:      Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com>
To:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [alerts@infosecnews.org: [ISN] Top Ten Reasons Why Ubuntu, Is Best for Enterprise Use]
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On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 05:39:43PM +0300, Nico Revin wrote:
> You know... The only thing I can say for sure is that FreeBSD and *buntu are
> both great systems. But the problem is in management. Why do you think
> Ubuntu became so popular? Mark sold his business and had a great credit to
> fire a start-up. So he did.
> 
> And what had he done first? He bought all of us. Show me a person who DID
> NOT got ubuntu via ship-it system? It was really for free!!!

I didn't, actually.  It's faster to burn it to CD -- and it didn't take
me long to realize that no matter how free it was, it wasn't what I
wanted out of my OS.  I agree that taking that approach has spurred on
adoption rates, though, even if it didn't work on me in particular.


> 
> Marketing is evil. But without it you can lose the market share, respect and
> money... The economic model of the open-source projects is very weak. Mark
> demonstrates that it can be efficient.

I disagree that it's "weak".  The problem is that it's competing with
legislation and entrenched corporate interests that have a lot of market
clout and paid lobbyists fighting against any rapid changes in market
realities.  Visibility is a pretty handy tool for resisting those
influences of course -- and that's what Shuttleworth is bringing to
Ubuntu (as you've pretty much pointed out): visibility.  None of that or
anything related to it means that the "economic model of the open-source
projects is very weak," though.

-- 
CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
Baltasar Gracian: "A wise man gets more from his enemies than a fool from
his friends."



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