Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 01:41:09 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> To: Olivier Duchateau <duchateau.olivier@gmail.com> Cc: "xfce@FreeBSD.org" <xfce@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: distfiles, please add @freebsd.org Message-ID: <201401290041.s0T0f9D7085996@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: Your message "Tue, 28 Jan 2014 22:34:50 %2B0100." <CAHcdu2p9taXMU8dt5kD1szKQf4yj-b3J2ofvUtEs7_uB7X-96A@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi, Olivier Duchateau wrote: > 2014-01-28 Julian H. Stacey <jhs@berklix.com>: > > Hi xfce@FreeBSD.org > > www/midori/Makefile > > MAINTAINER= xfce@FreeBSD.org > > > > Suggestion/Request: Please add ftp.freebsd.org to list of distfiles > > & park a copy there, because I just checked on http://midori.org & they > > only store latest to download there, no option to download older, which means > > our ports 10.0-RELEASE tree is already broken, as release ports/ wants > > > > midori_0.5.6_all_.tar.bz2 > > > > & http://www.midori-browser.org/download/source/ > > only offers tar.bz2 · 0.5.7 · 1.1 MB > > > > So all releases of FreeBSD are currently doomed to be obsolete > > almost immediately. > > Hi, > > I don't understand your complaint, why add freebsd distfiles directory. > If you want to download previous and latest versions, real host is > launchpad.net [1] (this host is piece of shit, when we need to fetch > tarball). > > [1] https://launchpad.net/midori > > > > > PS Yes I'm aware of & make fetches there, but it doesnt solve the > > problem of release. We have ~ 20,000 ports, (personaly I use about 1,000), shortly after release I build my personal set, (& other people will build theirs later when it suits them) & yet just days after release midori distfile URL is already obsolete & worse no other sites with the old version of distfiles needed by 10.0-RELEASE/ports/www/midori, & no search engines offer alternate URLs. It's acceptable to leave Release & jump to build in current ports, for each of those (in my case among 1,000) ports in Release that may be broken, but it a waste of time to issue a release ports tree, with a midori tree we Know will quickly be deliberately unusable. The disruption is because midori project is short sighted & Only offers latest version & prevents access to the older version our FreeBSD release is issued for. Compare with something like ghostscript, where lots of sites have lots of old versions too, so a Makefile from a Release port will still build, unlike a midori port. As midori master site is removing distfiles on which release ports/www/midori is based, ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ should hold a copy of the exact distfile that the RELEASE ports/www/midori/Makefile requires. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Interleave replies below like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text, not quoted-printable, HTML, base64, or multipart/alternative.
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