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Date:      Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:18:25 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@nwlink.com>
To:        Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, core@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues
Message-ID:  <Pine.SOL.3.96.1000928100447.7283C-100000@utah>
In-Reply-To: <20000928100529.A51667@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>

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On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 10:18:50AM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote:

> It might do, if the benefits outweigh the costs.  The cost, basically,
> is that the existing mirrors have to be able to duplicate it easily, and
> it needs to be as simple as possible to set up.  That would basically
> mean putting the site infrastructure tools in to the ports tree (where
> they're not already there) and coming up with a list of 7-10 things that
> a new web mirror has to do.

I don't think the mirrors have to change.  I would rather implement a
systew where they don't.
 
> PHP and database stuff also brings up interesting issues relating to 
> 
>   1.  How do you version the content in the database?

You don't.  If you wanted a versionable search, we could enforce META tag
discipline.  That is not needed to put a search engine in place.

>   2.  How do you make it easy for translators to translate it?

You don't.  Since the search engine could be set up to search the website
of a specific language (i.e. www.de) then you don't need to worry about
language.  (caveat: The search database should store non-english
characters in the text fields.) 

>   3.  How do you audit it?

I don't understand.
  
> > Are there docs in existence? 
> Ho ho ho. 

:)

Either I am having a gross conceptual error or some folks are coming to
the wrong conclusions when the words PHP and database springs up.  In
either case the communication is muddy.

I don't want to build a slashdot clone!

What I am gathering is that a couple of you have come to an understanding
that the mail archive and the website will be replaced by database/PHP
driven versions. Not in my mind.

I think trying to change a global, multilanguage system that works is a
_very_ big job.  I don't think it is necessary to make all mirrors go PHP.
PHP is a wildcard though.  Hmmm.  Another post is coming.

In my mind all of the websites and multinational mirrors stay completely
unmolested.  All of the various mail archives stay completely unmolested.
The search host merely searches and indexes and that is it.

I still have not determined the way to go.

> I'd have no problem with that -- I've cc'd this to -core for their
> perusal.

OK.

Thank you,
Jason C. Wells




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