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Date:      Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:06:34 -0400
From:      Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
To:        'Alejandro Ramirez' <ales@megared.net.mx>, gerti@bitart.com
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Why does TCP Wrappers require /etc/hosts.deny (was: tcp wrappers)
Message-ID:  <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105BFE@site2s1>

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I wish I could answer that question.  Does your hosts.allow not work at all,
or just not for deny's?

I fought with it for a couple hours and was able to finally get the
following to work, so I suggested it to you.  (this is from memory, it may
be slightly different).

/etc/hosts.allow:
ALL : .domain.com

/etc/hosts.deny:
telnetd : ALL

I haven't done a buildworld in probably a month or two, so maybe it was
something that was addresses.  I know my kernel is current, but I'm 99.9%
positive that has no bearing on it.

Btw, according to the man pages (man 5 hosts_access, and man 5
hosts_options) we should be able to put everything in /etc/hosts.allow.
(although it's counter-intuitive).

-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Alejandro Ramirez [SMTP:ales@megared.net.mx]
> Sent:	Wednesday, August 25, 1999 7:32 PM
> To:	gerti@bitart.com
> Cc:	Christopher Michaels; FreeBSD Questions
> Subject:	RE: tcp wrappers
> 
> Ok,
> 
>     Now I have 2 more questions:
> 
> 1 How do I fix this inetd problem in my production system???
> 2 Why the /etc/hosts.deny file had to be created and works, and the
> /etc/hosts.allow doesnt work nor even its the default file where you
> should
> deny things.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ales
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gerd Knops <gerti@bitart.com>
> To: Alejandro Ramirez <ales@megared.net.mx>
> Cc: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>; FreeBSD Questions
> <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: tcp wrappers
> 
> 
> > Alejandro Ramirez wrote:
> > > Ok,
> > >
> > > Here is the thing, I have erased al the content in the
> /etc/hosts.allow
> > > file, I couldnt get in to the telmex server at this time, but I have
> an
> > > account (for testing purposes) in another server hosted by a good
> friend
> > > called Thomas Mullaney (Thanks Thomas), I have created the
> /etc/hosts.deny
> > > file, and the following lines are in there:
> > >
> > > telnetd: 209.58.142.2
> > > telnetd: .mullaney.org
> > > telnetd: r2d2.mullaney.org
> > >
> > > The first line its the IP address for the server of the line #3, and
> the
> > > second line its self explanatory, and it still doesnt work, first I
> tried
> > > with the second line, then I started to change it for the other lines,
> > > until I had the three lines in the file, and still doesnt work, what
> am
> I
> > > missing here???
> > >
> > > BTW It only worked 2 times, then stopped working???
> > >
> > > Aug 25 13:17:20 unix inetd[1838]: refused connection from
> > > r2d2.mullaney.org, ser
> > > vice telnet (tcp)
> > > Aug 25 13:17:29 unix inetd[3276]: refused connection from
> > > r2d2.mullaney.org, ser
> > > vice telnet (tcp)
> > > Aug 25 14:08:22 unix login: login from r2d2.mullaney.org on ttyp1 as
> ???
> > >
> > > BTW I havent installed the port, because the release notes says that
> its
> > > already built in the system.
> > >
> > FreeBSD 3.2 Release has a bug in inted when you restart it with -HUP.
> inetd
> > still works, but something goes wrong with the tcp wrapper configuration
> > files.
> >
> > I know it got fixed in 'Current', but I can't remember if the fix made
> it
> > into 'Stable' yet.
> >
> > Gerd
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
> > > To: 'Alejandro Ramirez' <ales@megared.net.mx>; FreeBSD Questions
> > > <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 12:27 PM
> > > Subject: RE: tcp wrappers
> > >
> > >
> > > > For that last time that you logged into the machine. Did you check
> to
> see
> > > > if there was anything in /var/log/messages?
> > > >
> > > > Try this (just to satisfy my curiosity).  Put the following line in
> your
> > > > /etc/hosts.deny file.
> > > > telnetd : .telmex.net.mx
> > > >
> > > > Leave /etc/hosts.allow empty (comment out the allow all line).
> > > >
> > > > Let me know if that works.
> > > >
> > > > -Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Alejandro Ramirez [SMTP:ales@megared.net.mx]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 12:57 PM
> > > > > To: Christopher Michaels; FreeBSD Questions
> > > > > Subject: RE: tcp wrappers
> > > > >
> > > > > Christopher,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thats funny, the log message that I received was at 03:37:05 a.m.
> of
> > > > > today,
> > > > > the line:
> > > > >
> > > > > telnetd : .telmex.net.mx : deny
> > > > >
> > > > > I added it today at 9:30 am in the morning in order to make more
> tests
> > > > > because I already saw this message in the /var/log/message file,
> since
> > > > > yesterday, until today at 9:30, the only lines that where in the
> > > > > /etc/hosts.allow file  where:
> > > > >
> > > > > telnetd : .itesm.mx : deny
> > > > > ALL : ALL : allow
> > > > >
> > > > > I also telneted to a server under that domain, and telneted again
> to
> my
> > > > > server, then I use the "w" command and see the complete domain
> name
> for
> > > > > that
> > > > > server "gda.itesm.mx", but its not rejecting the connection. Do I
> have
> > > to
> > > > > grab the complete set of adresses they use to block the access???,
> so
> > > why
> > > > > its not working with the domain name???.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Ales
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
> > > > > To: 'Alejandro Ramirez' <ales@megared.net.mx>; FreeBSD Questions
> > > > > <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:30 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: tcp wrappers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ok.  You don't need to sighup inetd.  From one of your previous
> > > postings
> > > > > > you're getting the following error:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aug 25 03:37:05 unix inetd[82105]: warning: /etc/hosts.allow,
> line
> > > > > > 13: can't verify hostname:
> > > > > > gethostbyname(customer18-197.telmex.net.mx) failed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What appears to be happening, is that since the address can't be
> > > > > verified
> > > > > to
> > > > > > be from that domain it is not denying.  That error, if you
> didn't
> > > know,
> > > > > is
> > > > > > saying it cannot resolve "customer18-197.telmex.net.mx".  They
> appear
> > > to
> > > > > > have DNS resolution problems.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I would suggest is to see if you can find out the range of
> ip
> > > > > addresses
> > > > > > they use and try denying that, e.g.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > telnetd : 200.33.146. : deny
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See if that works.  Also I do not know if there is a way to deny
> all
> > > > > > addresses that do not resolve.  I will look into that, because
> I'd
> > > like
> > > > > to
> > > > > > know myself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Chris
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Alejandro Ramirez [SMTP:ales@megared.net.mx]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:23 AM
> > > > > > > To: Christopher Michaels; FreeBSD Questions
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: tcp wrappers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This are the only 3 lines that I have uncommented in my
> > > > > > > /etc/hosts.allow
> > > > > > > file:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > telnetd : .telmex.net.mx : deny
> > > > > > > telnetd : .itesm.mx : deny
> > > > > > > ALL : ALL : allow
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the rest of the file its commented. I have telnet accounts in
> > > servers
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > those domains, and after I put this lines, and SIGHUP inetd, I
> can
> > > > > still
> > > > > > > log
> > > > > > > in via telnet to my server from this servers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in Advance
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ales
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
> > > > > > > To: 'Alejandro Ramirez' <ales@megared.net.mx>; FreeBSD
> Questions
> > > > > > > <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 10:02 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: tcp wrappers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Maybe if you posted what was listed in your hosts.allow file
> it
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > help
> > > > > > > > us.
> > > > > > > > Also, what aspect of it is NOT working?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Chris
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Alejandro Ramirez [SMTP:ales@megared.net.mx]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 7:12 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: FreeBSD Questions
> > > > > > > > > Subject: tcp wrappers
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I know that tcp wrappers are included in 3.2 Release, so I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > modified
> > > > > > > > > the /etc/hosts.allow file, and HUP the inetd daemon, but
> it
> > > doesnt
> > > > > > > work,
> > > > > > > > > its
> > > > > > > > > there some documentation that could help me, or do you
> know
> > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > am
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > missing???
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks in Advance
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ales
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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