Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 13:52:21 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton <freebsd@nbritton.org> To: Tom Huppi <thuppi@huppi.com> Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... Message-ID: <41F6A375.1050704@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0501250313070.29365@nuumen.pair.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0501220328220.12163@nuumen.pair.com> <Pine.BSF.4.58.0501220504340.12163@nuumen.pair.com> <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> <f686a68a05012300114e3ea8c3@mail.gmail.com> <41F37A75.9020208@gmx.at> <c0ee48c50501231737767a674@mail.gmail.com> <Pine.BSF.4.58.0501232132010.62842@nuumen.pair.com> <41F5CC50.90406@nbritton.org> <Pine.BSF.4.58.0501250313070.29365@nuumen.pair.com>
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Tom Huppi wrote: > >On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > >>Tom Huppi wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Cesar Mello wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>FreeBSD is an excellent OS, I just dream with a GUI that's not as >>>>heavy as currently xorg is. >>>> >>>> >>>Xorg seems to be the real sticking point. FreeBSD's virtual >>>memory subsystem has long been very good at adjusting to limited >>>resources (dunno if Linux has caught up in this respect yet.) >>>Matt Dillon wrote a nice technical description of how the VM >>>subsystem takes a certain number of page hits in order to gage >>>usage and adjust. It was quite noticeable in terms of >>>responsiveness back in the old days. >>> >>> >>There is nothing wrong with Xorg and it is lightwight, the problem is >>what you run on it: >> >> > >I guess there are different interpretation of 'lightweight' > >Your machine is stronger in memory terms than the one I'm using at >the moment, and it seems that your Xorg is using more mem >(although we have about the same amount resident.) Is your build >of Xorg a standard ports build or package or something at all >special? > most are built with some type of opt flags but nothing radical. > (I'm wondering if Xorg itself adjusts at load time based >on resource availability.) Oh...how much mem do you have on your >graphics adapter? > > GeForce2 GTS w/64MB....nvidia-driver-1.0.6113_3 -------------------- (lol, I need to switch email clients!) last pid: 54729; load averages: 0.27, 0.36, 0.32 up 0+15:34:52 13:47:15 83 processes: 1 running, 82 sleeping CPU states: 3.5% user, 10.5% nice, 8.9% system, 1.2% interrupt, 75.9% idle Mem: 258M Active, 107M Inact, 98M Wired, 21M Cache, 60M Buf, 5216K Free Swap: 1024M Total, 24K Used, 1024M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 1047 nbritton 20 0 107M 74000K kserel 3:08 0.00% 0.00% thunderbird-bin 649 nbritton 96 0 103M 52868K select 3:22 1.71% 1.71% Xorg 54281 nbritton 20 0 40444K 32060K kserel 0:02 0.00% 0.00% firefox-bin 1435 nbritton 20 10 35396K 18284K kserel 1:03 0.00% 0.00% gnome-terminal 715 nbritton 20 0 29496K 21400K kserel 0:04 0.00% 0.00% nautilus 713 nbritton 96 0 22216K 15864K select 0:06 0.00% 0.00% gnome-panel 666 nbritton 96 0 20036K 12280K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-settings-daem 739 nbritton 96 0 19552K 12520K select 1:09 0.00% 0.00% clock-applet 653 nbritton 96 0 19344K 12460K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-session 728 nbritton 96 0 19244K 13160K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% wnck-applet 734 nbritton 96 0 18500K 12272K select 1:14 0.00% 0.00% multiload-applet-2 720 nbritton 96 0 18472K 11260K select 0:12 0.00% 0.00% mixer_applet2 730 nbritton 109 0 17008K 10652K select 4:12 0.00% 0.00% gnome-netstatus-app 690 nbritton 96 0 14032K 10084K select 0:07 0.00% 0.00% metacity 51670 nbritton 96 0 12492K 9772K select 0:06 0.00% 0.00% leafpad 49355 nbritton 96 0 12312K 8920K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% leafpad 655 nbritton 96 0 11864K 10324K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 722 nbritton 20 0 9384K 5524K kserel 0:03 0.00% 0.00% gnome-vfs-daemon 664 nbritton 96 0 9292K 4708K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gnome-smproxy 564 root 96 0 8364K 6800K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 6834 nbritton 106 10 7600K 6216K select 0:14 0.00% 0.00% python 662 nbritton 96 0 6008K 3744K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% bonobo-activation-s 428 root 96 0 3768K 2340K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% sendmail 422 root 117 0 3712K 1904K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd 432 smmsp 20 0 3668K 2136K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sendmail 660 nbritton 96 0 3488K 2744K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% esd 679 nbritton 96 0 3448K 2340K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% xscreensaver 54507 nbritton 20 10 3172K 2236K kserel 0:01 0.00% 0.00% splay 1442 nbritton 4 10 3144K 1296K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% gnome-pty-helper 726 nbritton 96 0 2992K 1272K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% mapping-daemon 658 nbritton 96 0 2980K 1376K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% gnome-keyring-daemo 737 nbritton -8 0 2920K 964K piperd 21:56 2.00% 2.00% libgtop_server2 54506 nbritton 8 10 2688K 1704K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% splay 53396 nbritton 106 10 2592K 1700K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top 25427 nbritton 20 0 2536K 1804K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 635 nbritton 20 0 2532K 1828K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 27342 root 5 0 2516K 1812K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% csh 49164 nbritton 20 10 2504K 1764K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 48477 nbritton 5 10 2504K 1760K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 1443 nbritton 20 10 2504K 1732K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 48611 nbritton 5 0 2436K 1796K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 648 nbritton 8 0 2192K 1204K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% xinit 235 root 96 0 1956K 1208K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% dhclient
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