Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:03:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Red Neck <kcender07@yahoo.co.uk> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Loader broken in Head? Message-ID: <575715.97141.qm@web27805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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Hi,
Within the last day (26/10/07) I've built and installed the sources from CVS Head only to find the stage 3 boot loader, /boot/loader, not working. I'm using a Mac Pro with 3 internal hard drives. On one hard disk I have FreeBSD amd64 installed, occupying the entire disk (MBR). Using the sources from Head, loader just freezes after displaying its initial messages with a constantly spinning cursor. To access the system I have to revert to using an older loader such as 6.2 release's. I have attached my make and kernel config.
Can anyone provide any help? I'm quite prepared to help test fixes.
Thanks,
RedNeck
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#
# GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
# http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files.
# If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first
# in NOTES.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC,v 1.485 2007/10/19 12:30:33 kensmith Exp $
cpu HAMMER
ident CUSTOM-SMP
# To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints
#hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices.
#makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler
options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption
options INET # InterNETworking
options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols
options SCTP # Stream Control Transmission Protocol
options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support
options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists
options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories
options UFS_GJOURNAL # Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling
options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device
options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client
#options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server
#options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT
options NTFS # NT File System
options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem
options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem
options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS)
options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework
options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables.
options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization
options COMPAT_43TTY # BSD 4.3 TTY compat [KEEP THIS!]
options COMPAT_IA32 # Compatible with i386 binaries
#options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4
#options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5
#options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6
options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support
options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory
options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues
options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores
options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions
options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev
options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive.
#options STOP_NMI # Stop CPUS using NMI instead of IPI
options AUDIT # Security event auditing
# Debugging for use in -current
#options KDB # Enable kernel debugger support.
#options DDB # Support DDB.
#options GDB # Support remote GDB.
#options INVARIANTS # Enable calls of extra sanity checking
#options INVARIANT_SUPPORT # Extra sanity checks of internal structures, required by INVARIANTS
#options WITNESS # Enable checks to detect deadlocks and cycles
#options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN # Don't run witness on spinlocks for speed
# Make an SMP-capable kernel by default
options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
# CPU frequency control
device cpufreq
# Bus support.
device acpi
device pci
# Floppy drives
#device fdc
# ATA and ATAPI devices
device ata
device atadisk # ATA disk drives
#device ataraid # ATA RAID drives
device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
#device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
#device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering
# SCSI Controllers
#device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
#options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug
# output. Adds ~128k to driver.
#device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices
#options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug
# output. Adds ~215k to driver.
#device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T))
#device hptiop # Highpoint RocketRaid 3xxx series
#device isp # Qlogic family
#device ispfw # Firmware for QLogic HBAs- normally a module
#device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion
#device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
#device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr')
#device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters
#device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters
#device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters
#device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60.
#device bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters
# SCSI peripherals
device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
#device ch # SCSI media changers
device da # Direct Access (disks)
#device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
device cd # CD
device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
#device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE)
# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
#device amr # AMI MegaRAID
#device arcmsr # Areca SATA II RAID
#device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5*
#device dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options
#device hptmv # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x
#device rr232x # Highpoint RocketRAID 232x
#device iir # Intel Integrated RAID
#device ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID
#device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
#device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID
# RAID controllers
#device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID
#device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM)
#device ida # Compaq Smart RAID
#device mfi # LSI MegaRAID SAS
#device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family
#XXX pointer/int warnings
#device pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000
#device twe # 3ware ATA RAID
# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller
#device atkbd # AT keyboard
#device psm # PS/2 mouse
device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer
device vga # VGA video card driver
device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support
# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device sc
#device agp # support several AGP chipsets
# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
# PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support
#device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge
#device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus
#device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus
# Serial (COM) ports
#device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports
#device uart # Generic UART driver
# Parallel port
#device ppc
#device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)
#device lpt # Printer
#device plip # TCP/IP over parallel
#device ppi # Parallel port interface device
#device vpo # Requires scbus and da
# If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is
# supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following
# line to enable it (connects to sio, uart and/or ppc drivers):
#device puc
# PCI Ethernet NICs.
#device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card
#device ixgb # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card
#device le # AMD Am7900 LANCE and Am79C9xx PCnet
#device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'')
#device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
#device miibus # MII bus support
#device bce # Broadcom BCM5706/BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet
#device bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet
#device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet
#device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
#device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
#device lge # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet
#device msk # Marvell/SysKonnect Yukon II Gigabit Ethernet
#device nfe # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet
#device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet
#device nve # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet Networking
#device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence over 'le')
#device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S
#device rl # RealTek 8129/8139
#device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
#device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
#device sk # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet
#device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
#device ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet
#device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
#device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'')
#device vge # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet
#device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
#device wb # Winbond W89C840F
#device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
# ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included.
#device cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC
# 'device ed' requires 'device miibus'
#device ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards
#device ex # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+
#device ep # Etherlink III based cards
#device fe # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards
#device sn # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips
#device xe # Xircom pccard Ethernet
# Wireless NIC cards
#device wlan # 802.11 support
#device wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support
#device wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support
#device wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support
#device wlan_amrr # AMRR transmit rate control algorithm
#device wlan_scan_ap # 802.11 AP mode scanning
#device wlan_scan_sta # 802.11 STA mode scanning
#device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs.
#device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's
#device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer)
#device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath
#device awi # BayStack 660 and others
#device ral # Ralink Technology RT2500 wireless NICs.
#device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs.
# Pseudo devices.
device loop # Network loopback
device random # Entropy device
device ether # Ethernet support
device sl # Kernel SLIP
device ppp # Kernel PPP
device tun # Packet tunnel.
device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
device md # Memory "disks"
device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
device firmware # firmware assist module
# The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
# Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP.
device bpf # Berkeley packet filter
# USB support
device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface
#device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface
device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0)
device usb # USB Bus (required)
#device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices
device ugen # Generic
device uhid # "Human Interface Devices"
device ukbd # Keyboard
#device ulpt # Printer
device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
device ums # Mouse
#device ural # Ralink Technology RT2500USB wireless NICs
#device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player
#device uscanner # Scanners
# USB Ethernet, requires miibus
#device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet
#device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet
#device cdce # Generic USB over Ethernet
#device cue # CATC USB Ethernet
#device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet
#device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet
# FireWire support
device firewire # FireWire bus code
device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da)
device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!)
device fwip # IP over FireWire (RFC 2734,3146)
#device dcons # Dumb console driver
#device dcons_crom # Configuration ROM for dcons
machine amd64
device coretemp
device mem
device io
device isa
device atapicam
options GEOM_BSD
options GEOM_MBR
device crypto
options GEOM_ELI
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# $FreeBSD: src/share/examples/etc/make.conf,v 1.279 2007/01/17 12:43:06 des Exp $
#
# NOTE: Please would any committer updating this file also update the
# make.conf(5) manual page, if necessary, which is located in
# src/share/man/man5/make.conf.5.
#
# /etc/make.conf, if present, will be read by make (see
# /usr/share/mk/sys.mk). It allows you to override macro definitions
# to make without changing your source tree, or anything the source
# tree installs.
#
# This file must be in valid Makefile syntax.
#
# There are additional things you can put into /etc/make.conf.
# You have to find those in the Makefiles and documentation of
# the source tree.
#
# Note, that you should not set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX or MAKEOBJDIR
# from make.conf (or as command line variables to make).
# Both variables are environment variables for make and must be used as:
#
# env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/big/directory make
#
#
# The CPUTYPE variable controls which processor should be targeted for
# generated code. This controls processor-specific optimizations in
# certain code (currently only OpenSSL) as well as modifying the value
# of CFLAGS to contain the appropriate optimization directive to gcc.
# The automatic setting of CFLAGS may be overridden using the
# NO_CPU_CFLAGS variable below.
# Currently the following CPU types are recognized:
# Intel x86 architecture:
# (AMD CPUs) opteron athlon64 athlon-mp athlon-xp athlon-4
# athlon-tbird athlon k8 k6-3 k6-2 k6 k5
# (Intel CPUs) core2 core nocona pentium4m pentium4 prescott
# pentium3m pentium3 pentium-m pentium2
# pentiumpro pentium-mmx pentium i486 i386
# (Via CPUs) c3 c3-2
# Alpha/AXP architecture: ev67 ev6 pca56 ev56 ev5 ev45 ev4
# AMD64 architecture: opteron, athlon64, nocona, prescott, core2
# Intel ia64 architecture: itanium2, itanium
#
# (?= allows to buildworld for a different CPUTYPE.)
#
CPUTYPE?=core2
#NO_CPU_CFLAGS= # Don't add -march=<cpu> to CFLAGS automatically
#NO_CPU_COPTFLAGS= # Don't add -march=<cpu> to COPTFLAGS automatically
#
# CFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C code.
# Note that optimization settings other than -O and -O2 are not recommended
# or supported for compiling the world or the kernel - please revert any
# nonstandard optimization settings to "-O" or "-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing"
# before submitting bug reports without patches to the developers.
#
# Compiling with -fstrict-aliasing optimization breaks some [notable] ports.
# GCC turns on -fstrict-aliasing optimization at all levels above -O[1], so
# explicitly turn it off when using compiling with the -O2 optimization level.
#
CFLAGS= -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
#
# CXXFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C++ code.
# Note that CXXFLAGS is initially set to the value of CFLAGS. If you wish
# to add to CXXFLAGS value, "+=" must be used rather than "=". Using "="
# alone will remove the often needed contents of CFLAGS from CXXFLAGS.
#
#CXXFLAGS+= -fconserve-space
#
# MAKE_SHELL controls the shell used internally by make(1) to process the
# command scripts in makefiles. Three shells are supported, sh, ksh, and
# csh. Using sh is most common, and advised. Using ksh *may* work, but is
# not guaranteed to. Using csh is absurd. The default is to use sh.
#
#MAKE_SHELL?=sh
#
# BDECFLAGS are a set of gcc warning settings that Bruce Evans has suggested
# for use in developing FreeBSD and testing changes. They can be used by
# putting "CFLAGS+=${BDECFLAGS}" in /etc/make.conf. -Wconversion is not
# included here due to compiler bugs, e.g., mkdir()'s mode_t argument.
#
#BDECFLAGS= -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align \
# -Wcast-qual -Wchar-subscripts -Winline \
# -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith \
# -Wredundant-decls -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings
#
# To compile just the kernel with special optimizations, you should use
# this instead of CFLAGS (which is not applicable to kernel builds anyway).
# There is very little to gain by using higher optimization levels, and doing
# so can cause problems.
#
COPTFLAGS= -O2 -pipe
#
# Compare before install
#INSTALL=install -C
#
# Mtree will follow symlinks
#MTREE_FOLLOWS_SYMLINKS= -L
#
# To enable installing ssh(1) with the setuid bit turned on
#ENABLE_SUID_SSH=
#
# To enable installing newgrp(1) with the setuid bit turned on.
# Without the setuid bit, newgrp cannot change users' groups.
#ENABLE_SUID_NEWGRP=
#
# To avoid building various parts of the base system:
#NO_MODULES= # do not build modules with the kernel
#NO_SHARE= # do not go into the share subdir
#NO_SHARED= # build /bin and /sbin statically linked (bad idea)
#
# Variables that control how ppp(8) is built.
#PPP_NO_NAT= # do not build with NAT support (see make.conf(5))
#PPP_NO_NETGRAPH= # do not build with Netgraph support
#PPP_NO_RADIUS= # do not build with RADIUS support
#PPP_NO_SUID= # build with normal permissions
#
#TRACEROUTE_NO_IPSEC= # do not build traceroute(8) with IPSEC support
#
# To build sys/modules when building the world (our old way of doing things)
#MODULES_WITH_WORLD= # do not build modules when building kernel
#
# The list of modules to build instead of all of them.
#MODULES_OVERRIDE= linux ipfw
#
# The list of modules to never build, applied *after* MODULES_OVERRIDE.
#WITHOUT_MODULES= bktr plip
#
# If you do not want unformatted manual pages to be compressed
# when they are installed:
#
#NO_MANCOMPRESS=
#
#
# Default format for system documentation, depends on your printer.
# Set this to "ascii" for simple printers or screen
#
#PRINTERDEVICE= ps
#
#
# How long to wait for a console keypress before booting the default kernel.
# This value is approximately in milliseconds. Keypresses are accepted by the
# BIOS before booting from disk, making it possible to give custom boot
# parameters even when this is set to 0.
#
#BOOTWAIT=0
#BOOTWAIT=30000
#
# By default, the system will always use the keyboard/video card as system
# console. However, the boot blocks may be dynamically configured to use a
# serial port in addition to or instead of the keyboard/video console.
#
# By default we use COM1 as our serial console port *if* we're going to use
# a serial port as our console at all. Alter as necessary.
#
# COM1: = 0x3F8, COM2: = 0x2F8, COM3: = 0x3E8, COM4: = 0x2E8
#
#BOOT_COMCONSOLE_PORT= 0x3F8
#
# The default serial console speed is 9600. Set the speed to a larger value
# for better interactive response.
#
#BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED= 115200
#
# By default the 'pxeboot' loader retrieves the kernel via NFS. Defining
# this and recompiling /usr/src/sys/boot will cause it to retrieve the kernel
# via TFTP. This allows pxeboot to load a custom BOOTP diskless kernel yet
# still mount the server's '/' (i.e. rather than load the server's kernel).
#
#LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT= YES
#
#
# Kerberos 5 su (k5su)
# If you want to use the k5su utility, define this to have it installed
# set-user-ID.
#ENABLE_SUID_K5SU=
#
#
# CVSup update flags. Edit SUPFILE settings to reflect whichever distribution
# file(s) you use on your site (see /usr/share/examples/cvsup/README for more
# information on CVSup and these files). To use, do "make update" in /usr/src.
#
#SUP_UPDATE=
#
#SUP= /usr/bin/csup
#SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2
#SUPHOST= cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org
#SUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile
#PORTSSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
#DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile
#
# top(1) uses a hash table for the user names. The size of this hash
# can be tuned to match the number of local users. The table size should
# be a prime number approximately twice as large as the number of lines in
# /etc/passwd. The default number is 20011.
#
#TOP_TABLE_SIZE= 101
#
# Documentation
#
# The list of languages and encodings to build and install
#
#DOC_LANG= en_US.ISO8859-1 ru_RU.KOI8-R
#
#
# sendmail
#
# The following sets the default m4 configuration file to use at
# install time. Use with caution as a make install will overwrite
# any existing /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. Note that SENDMAIL_CF is now
# deprecated. The value should be a fully qualified path name.
#
#SENDMAIL_MC=/etc/mail/myconfig.mc
#
# The following sets the default m4 configuration file for mail
# submission to use at install time. Use with caution as a make
# install will overwrite any existing /etc/mail/submit.cf. The
# value should be a fully qualified path name.
#
#SENDMAIL_SUBMIT_MC=/etc/mail/mysubmit.mc
#
# If you need to build additional .cf files during a make buildworld,
# include the full paths to the .mc files in SENDMAIL_ADDITIONAL_MC.
#
#SENDMAIL_ADDITIONAL_MC=/etc/mail/foo.mc /etc/mail/bar.mc
#
# The following overrides the default location for the m4 configuration
# files used to build a .cf file from a .mc file.
#
#SENDMAIL_CF_DIR=/usr/local/share/sendmail/cf
#
# Setting the following variable modifies the flags passed to m4 when
# building a .cf file from a .mc file. It can be used to enable
# features disabled by default.
#
#SENDMAIL_M4_FLAGS=
#
# Setting the following variables modifies the build environment for
# sendmail and its related utilities. For example, SASL support can be
# added with settings such as:
#
# with SASLv1:
# SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL
# SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib
# SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl
#
# with SASLv2:
# SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2
# SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib
# SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2
#
# Note: If you are using Cyrus SASL with other applications which require
# access to the sasldb file, you should add the following to your
# sendmail.mc file:
#
# define(`confDONT_BLAME_SENDMAIL',`GroupReadableSASLDBFile')
#
#SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=
#SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=
#SENDMAIL_LDADD=
#SENDMAIL_DPADD=
#
# Setting SENDMAIL_SET_USER_ID will install the sendmail binary as a
# set-user-ID root binary instead of a set-group-ID smmsp binary and will
# prevent the installation of /etc/mail/submit.cf.
# This is a deprecated mode of operation. See etc/mail/README for more
# information.
#
#SENDMAIL_SET_USER_ID=
#
# The permissions to use on alias and map databases generated using
# /etc/mail/Makefile. Defaults to 0640.
#
#SENDMAIL_MAP_PERMS=
KERNCONF=CUSTOM-SMP
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