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Date:      Mon, 06 May 2002 08:59:22 -0700
From:      Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        Nils Holland <nils@daemon.tisys.org>, Colin Faber <cfaber@fpsn.net>, security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: You've Been Removed!
Message-ID:  <3CD6A85A.4050009@tenebras.com>
References:  <200205051832.OAA29652@matterhorn.pinn.net> <3CD59C0A.306681E3@fpsn.net> <20020505233756.A8532@daemon.tisys.org> <200205060013.g460DYn54044@apollo.backplane.com>

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Matthew Dillon wrote:
>     I think the lists should remain open.  A perfect solution would be
>     to have the mail system keep a database of originators (From: and
>     the first Received: header).  Whenever it sees an email from someone
>     not in the database it would request that the person acknowledge
>     that they really intended to send the email and, if they do, their
>     email goes through and they are added to the database (so it only
>     asks them once).
> 
>     I've been contemplating writing such a beast for myself, since 90%
>     of the email I receive these days is spam.  I'm sure others have
>     written similar things so I'm wondering if there is a solution out
>     there already.  At some point I'm going to write mine (as a standalone
>     MX relay so it could be tied into any system), when I have more time
>     available.


Matt -

Such a beast exists.  I'm running qmail here, w/tcprules, and get
about 1 or 2 SPAM a day.  The qsecretary function of exmlm does
what you describe -- it may be configured to require confirmation
of every message sent to the list, or just the first from a given
envelope sender, etc.

It takes some effort to adopt the Daniel J. Bernstein mindset,
but I'm a happy customer, and would be more than happy to assist
in setting this up.

The packages required are:
	
	daemontools-0.76_2
	ezmlm-idx-0.40_1
	qmail-1.03_1
	ucspi-tcp-0.88

Cheezwhiz,

Michael


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