Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2026 09:54:41 -0700 From: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> To: Anton Shterenlikht <lists@cmplx.uk>, stable@freebsd.org, pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] stable/15: new base packages for PAM, zstd Message-ID: <700c882a-ae24-403a-a8e0-5ceffed569ae@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <aenUvAuAGC8SgpKi__40328.3866167598$1776932059$gmane$org@cmplx.uk> References: <adTq6tMP4GWQS35e@amaryllis.le-fay.org> <aeedOZ7VcQAOsQCV@cmplx.uk> <3847a70c-f2d8-4c4a-a5f0-56a4a90168b0@yahoo.com> <aeh6ddAuDClL4YFn@cmplx.uk> <aek7L4X26D0zQTU-@amaryllis.le-fay.org> <aenUvAuAGC8SgpKi__40328.3866167598$1776932059$gmane$org@cmplx.uk>
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On 4/23/26 01:13, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 10:18:39PM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: >> Anton Shterenlikht wrote in <aeh6ddAuDClL4YFn@cmplx.uk>: >>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 12:52:43PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: >>>> On 4/21/26 08:52, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Apr 07, 2026 at 12:30:50PM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: >>>>> I recently upgraded Lenovo T480 laptop from some 14.x relase to 15.0-RELEASE-p4. >>>>> I'm still figuring out the use of pkg for base upgrades. >>>>> >>>>> For a few weeks all was working more or less well (some unexpected >>>>> reboots, but I had no time to dig into that). >>>>> >>>>> After reading your mail, I typed the pkg query command you suggested, >>>>> which returned nothing. >>>>> I then did "pkg install FreeBSD-set-minimal". >>>>> When that completed, I realised that my user is gone.... >>>>> >>>>> Looking at /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd I see that indeed >>>>> my user is not there anymore. >>>> >>>> Did you end up with the likes of: >>>> >>>> /etc/passwd.pkgsave >>>> /etc/master.passwd.pkgsave >>> >>> Yes, I have /etc/master.passwd.pkgsave >>> >>> So what happened? >>> Is it expected that "pkg install FreeBSD-set-minimal" >>> should erase all ordinary users from /etc/master.passwd >>> and save the original file as /etc/master.passwd.pkgsave? >> >> no, something has gone wrong here. >> >> how did you install this system? >> >> /etc/master.passwd is in the FreeBSD-runtime package, which must always >> be installed on a pkgbase system. the only reason 'pkg upgrade' would >> overwrite it with a pristine copy is if you somehow didn't have that >> package installed, but if that was the case, the system would already >> be completely non-functional. >> >> the only way i can imagine this happening if you had a non-pkgbase >> system, then installed FreeBSD-runtime (e.g., as a dependency of >> FreeBSD-set-minimal), but this should not be possible in a normal >> non-pkgbase installation since the FreeBSD-base repository won't >> be enabled. > > I admit I got a bit complacent... doing major and minor > updates with freebsd-update for years about any issue, > that I stopped reading UPDATING, and such. > So all this is my fault probably. > > I used freebsd-update to upgrade from some 14.4 to 15.0. So 14.* was never in pkgbase form? > > Once on 15.0, when updating ports, I noticed some differences, > read some posts, and found out about pkgbase. So the conversion to pkgbase started from a pnon-pkgbase 15.0 to produce a pkgbase 15.0? Did you use https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/pkgbasify to do the conversion (no matter which FreeBSD version was the starting point)? > It's possible that I missed some key steps > going 14 -> 15, or made some other mistakes. > > But after upgrading to 15.0, all I did was "pkg upgrade". > > Thank you > > Anton > > > -- === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.comhome | help
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