Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 10:40:10 -0500 From: Richard Susgin <rhs.message@gmail.com> To: Lucas Holt <luke@foolishgames.com> Cc: Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org>, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox and Thunderbird freeze system causing a reboot Message-ID: <CACYo7raTbYVrb2yo9MYBBkPc29Sc7f6sPdSYxuQfGRfRhLWsqQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <14e94da8-7839-49f7-9447-2157d2a97a6e@foolishgames.com> References: <087cf5ee-186a-41ee-93ed-154588964d41@smo.de> <58157db8-7af9-41cd-9fa1-5f9677878f89@nomadlogic.org> <CACYo7rYnFx%2BSQkXrUryTg0PsTPZBbSgQtG7V=BSDeudgB6su_A@mail.gmail.com> <14e94da8-7839-49f7-9447-2157d2a97a6e@foolishgames.com>
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--000000000000ca915a0626cd2653 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" As previously mentioned on a vanilla 13.4 release using pkging for apps. I can say both FF and TB run flawlessly with acceleration turned off. No issues with execution speed. On Tue, Nov 12, 2024, 7:57 PM Lucas Holt <luke@foolishgames.com> wrote: > > On 11/9/24 8:28 AM, Richard Susgin wrote: > > > > Hello, curious situation with Mozilla? I am not developing or > > debugging at the moment but merely just using. Last week i updated > > from FreeBSD13.1 to 13.4. Everything working in 13.1 but my FireFox so > > outdated it was being rejected. After installing everything from > > packaging and getting Xorg working everything seemed fine. XFCE > > installed and ran with a few tweaks. Both FF and Thunderbird would not > > start unless safe mode was invoked. I disabled composting in both and > > they start and work perfectly sans acceleration. So after checking > > around i find numerous posts about failing graphics stacks not being > > able to connect. This may not affect u but it is definitely a thing. > > Is this the end of Xorg and should we be using wayland? > > Rick > > > > > The grass isn't greener in wayland either. Even on Linux systems, I've > seen issues with thunderbird running very slow or hanging for periods. > It seems related to the message viewer code. > > -- > > Lucas Holt > > --000000000000ca915a0626cd2653 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p dir=3D"ltr">As previously mentioned on a vanilla 13.4 release using pkgi= ng for apps. I can say both FF and TB run flawlessly with acceleration turn= ed off. No issues with execution speed.=C2=A0 </p> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue= , Nov 12, 2024, 7:57 PM Lucas Holt <<a href=3D"mailto:luke@foolishgames.= com">luke@foolishgames.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma= il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef= t:1ex"><br> On 11/9/24 8:28 AM, Richard Susgin wrote:<br> ><br> > Hello, curious situation with Mozilla?=C2=A0 I am not developing or <b= r> > debugging at the moment but merely just using. Last week i updated <br= > > from FreeBSD13.1 to 13.4. Everything working in 13.1 but my FireFox so= <br> > outdated it was being rejected. After installing everything from <br> > packaging and getting Xorg working everything seemed fine. XFCE <br> > installed and ran with a few tweaks. Both FF and Thunderbird would not= <br> > start unless safe mode was invoked. I disabled composting in both and = <br> > they start and work perfectly sans acceleration. So after checking <br= > > around i find numerous posts about failing graphics stacks not being <= br> > able to connect. This may not affect u but it is definitely a thing.<b= r> > Is this the end of Xorg and should we be using wayland?<br> > Rick<br> ><br> ><br> The grass isn't greener in wayland either.=C2=A0 Even on Linux systems,= I've <br> seen issues with thunderbird running very slow or hanging for periods.=C2= =A0 <br> It seems related to the message viewer code.<br> <br> -- <br> <br> Lucas Holt<br> <br> </blockquote></div> --000000000000ca915a0626cd2653--
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