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Date:      Fri, 30 May 2008 14:04:51 -0700
From:      Kent <kstewart@owt.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        DAve <dave.list@pixelhammer.com>, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
Subject:   Re: Stumped:: web HTML.  Caution, may be OT.
Message-ID:  <200805301404.51880.kstewart@owt.com>
In-Reply-To: <20080530190416.GA7251@thought.org>
References:  <BMEDLGAENEKCJFGODFOCKEKNCFAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> <483F9115.4010903@pixelhammer.com> <20080530190416.GA7251@thought.org>

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On Friday 30 May 2008 12:04:16 pm Gary Kline wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 01:31:01AM -0400, DAve wrote:
> > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline
> >
> > I nearly spit coffee on my keyboard! I agree with you 100%. When we all
> > did HTML with BBedit and Textpad, people like Black, Tog, and Nielsen
> > kept everyone designing websites to best serve the content. Now it is
> > all about the sizzle, but there is rarely a steak.
> >
> > DAve
>
> 	You got it, man.  At least 80% of the site I happen on--at least
> 	that are selling something--have so much kerrapp going on I'd go
> 	blind if I stayed there for very long.   (I so *enjoy* being able
> 	to block ads or stop-movie (gnash), and then find the router or
> 	DVD or whatever.  And get out!)

I hate the over use of flash and etc. I sometimes think that is similar to 
putting a pdf file on a website instead of using txt. It bypasses some of the 
quirks and you see what they want you to see.

>
> 	This is not the kind of page i'M aiming for.   --But then, I
> 	really don't know what/how I want to revise my www homepage.

I use Adobe's GoLive but they killed it for Dreamweaver. If it had been a 
modest upgrade price, I would have upgraded but I didn't.

>
> 	The reason for the strange display was a bad comment.  So at
> 	least I've learned something!   Now www looks fine from ffox,
> 	opera, and Konq. I've forbidden my tweenager from using IE so
> 	have to wait for wife.  Or see if friends reply who use IE.
>

I have IE 7, Firefox, Seamonkey, and Safari on my main XP machine. I can't see 
any obvious difference. I also can't see any obvious difference between 
Firefox and Konqueror on FreeBSD and the XP browsers. 

FWIW, IE seems to complain on many of the sites I visit. It has a little 
comment on the status bar to the effect of completed but with errors. I 
didn't see it on your site.

Kent



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